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Let's have a discusion on what's up w/ the walleyes

4.2K views 26 replies 16 participants last post by  jimski2  
#1 ·
What's up with the walleyes ???

The fall bite has been nearly non-existent. True it's stil a bit early and last year it didn't get good until Nov., but in past years they were going around Huron earlier (some years much earlier).

My thoughts are these:
1. Smelt numbers are up and the walleyes seemed to be in no big hurry to head west from the deep water over east.

2. We've had many windy days and perhaps the lake conditions have pushed the bait (and what the bait eats) out north. Further north than most want to travel.

This has happened in the Spring before, when they are heading east, but I don't remember it ever happening in the fall.

3. With the walleyes being so dificult, more and more have taken to Perching and with fewer looking, combined with the bad weather, there simply has not been much walleye fishing activity.

And most likely of all...it probably is some combination of factors, maybe these ... maybe others.

Good luck to all.
 
#3 ·
I know where they aren't. In close to shore by Cleveland. Been trying for a couple weeks now with only a couple to show for it. That could change tomorrow, but I pulled a nice one in the middle of all those perch boats in front of Edgewater tonite. 42 FOW over nice marks. Just couldn't stand to catch another perch.
 
#4 ·
I think your real close Jim, I'd add that the rock fishing has picked up around King George, it been real good a few days with a strong west wind. I remember having to fish across all fall, I'm thinking 88. Those fished stayed east some last year. One more thing fishing out west is pitiful so non of those fish have moved.
 
#5 ·
Jim. I could see the bait numbers being up. With deep freezes and long winters and good ice alot of bait dies off. Without any of that last winter alot of bait made it that normally would not have. Therefore lots of bait and its not really moving. So the eyes aren't ready to high tail it yet. Jmo
 
#6 ·
I would Say blame it on the excess Bait fish ? Either smelt and or Shad.

Fish caught out west here two weeks ago where full of food. shad or smelt or ?? Two hard to tell. But since then then fish have bascily have turned off the feed bags ! They just refuse to bite any time of the day ?

Have had reports from daytime guys and a few night fisherman with nothing much to talk about !

The fish are here we all see them . But they just refuse to bite.

My thoughts are we need a nice Long Hard water season with lots of good thick ice all over most of the lake ! We will see ?
 
#7 ·
every one is perch fishing..I hear a lot of guys saying they have not caught this many big perch in a long time...? I found some nice eyes off cleveland today..not big but they where active. 56 to 50 fow. bottom to about 15 off bottom.
 
#8 ·
was out tonight in cleveland and all I was marking was baitfish. from 14 to 42 FOW nothing but bait.

Nice to hear sady got into them during the day, I was marking some nice fish while perching. We saved the eyes for at night and got nothing.

hey Jim you think from the lake not freezing over this past year the bait really didnt have a die off and now we are seeing just too much bait which doesnt help us catch any eyes? Atleast in ctown nothing but bait on the screen once the sun went down. we were catching fish same time last year with same water temps.
 
#9 ·
yes when we where perchn there was a ton of bait fish high in the column...and all the perch where right on the bottom..couldnt even pick them up on the graph when we got into them heavy??? But when we went out to eye fish we had awesome marks !!! off the bottom and a lot of em.
 
#10 ·
Walleyes are there but perch fishing is more fun, that is it. Saturday we had a group of 75 boats in sight, maybe more, all perching.

My screen shows a lot of walleyes suspended above the perch schools but now the wives and kids are having their way with fishing.

Every perch removed from the Lake Erie biomass means that up to a thousand walleye fry and fingerlings will survive for the future.
 
#11 · (Edited)
I think the smelt had a huge spawn. We saw them all up & down the east side of Kelleys in the late spring. Walleyes love smelt.

Shad sure didn't have a die off last year, but I have no intel on their reproduction.

Talked to Travis...they are setting off shore test nets today. He said he'd let me know how it goes. The inshore nets did not have the numbers they are used to seeing. (Huron & Vermilion)
 
#16 ·
Talked to Travis...they are setting off shore test nets today. He said he'd let me know how it goes. The inshore nets did not have the numbers they are used to seeing. (Huron & Vermilion)
that musta been the nets I ran thru this morning on way to huron. Just east of Cedar point. what a cluster%$(K !! flags set but nets right on the surface with teeny floattion boys. had to raise motor to float off of them. some nets had at least 2 or 3" square holes. what are they catching with those? They were everywhere!
 
#18 ·
This discussion is a waste of time and effort. Enjoy what the Lake is giving us this Fall compared to the last several years: Decent, steady weather
so far, outstanding perch fishing about everywhere, and a good supply of shiners. All these theories are just hot air. Most of the experts think they know but in fact are rarely correct.

Pulled a nice two man limit of perch on 22nd, and my friend caught a 28" eye on a spreader in 38 FOW off Bay Village. Go figure. Last fall and winter was bizarre with people trolling all that time in open water.

I am with Wojo. Let's get good ice and then find the walleyes. It looks like the long range forecast is headed that way.
 
#20 ·
Travis Hartman reports that while they did catch some walleyes in the deeper off shore waters, it was not near the numbers they are used to seeing. Some oversized fish, but the numbers of 5 - 9 # fish just are not there.

His take is that they were further east this year and the bait was plentiful,so they are just slow to return. He said, "my personal opinion,based on conditions leading up to Oct., is that they "have" to be further east, hopefully with the pedal down heading west."

He also said he doubted we'd know where they were,until we started to catch them....which I hope starts soon.
 
#22 ·
Travis Hartman reports that while they did catch some walleyes in the deeper off shore waters, it was not near the numbers they are used to seeing. Some oversized fish, but the numbers of 5 - 9 # fish just are not there.

His take is that they were further east this year and the bait was plentiful,so they are just slow to return. He said, "my personal opinion,based on conditions leading up to Oct., is that they "have" to be further east, hopefully with the pedal down heading west."

He also said he doubted we'd know where they were,until we started to catch them....which I hope starts soon.
Had a decent day on the eyes and a few after dark but a couple short of a limit.. Big fish that are derby worthy at the 29-25 and not much bait. Nothing on harnesses. 1.3-1.5 extreme crabbing and all fish off port side. Wasted several hours on about 50 perch before wetting the cranks.
 
#23 · (Edited)
Jim,

As I write this the lake is just starting to lay down after the storms, only 10ft waves now at the weather buoy .... lol

Would like your thoughts and opinion on the Walleye prospects for this coming weekend.

We have to take the boat out of the water on Fri Nov 9th so this weekend will be the last chance we have this season :(

Weather forecast looks good for Sat right now, but I am sure most will be saying that the Lake won't have settled down in such a short time, and I expect they will be correct.

I think the lake will have been turned over several times and I assume that will have helped to drop the water temperature.
Also the good blow from the NE will surely have driven the fish into the Vermilion / Huron area ?

So as long as the Lake has calmed down we will be out at the weekend and thinking of heading to the 34/20 line as a starting point.

Thoughts please ?
 
#24 ·
Roy, I would agree that most likely you'll struggle to produce fish that soon after a heavy blow. The lake will most likely not have time to settle out, and bait will be scattered. So I'd not be very confident.

Now go prove me wrong!!!

By the by 28/28 seems to clear sooner than antwhere else. Denny always said there was a spring there.