i really dont see this being benefecial or widely used. really when you look at it the only positive is yes save some decibels. other than that? now weigh the negatives we could go on and on?

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i really dont see this being benefecial or widely used. really when you look at it the only positive is yes save some decibels. other than that? now weigh the negatives we could go on and on?

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What negatives? The positive "saving some decibels" is all the incentive we need to pass this.

Many hunters have hearing loss of some kind. Especially at the high end of the scale. I am sure there have been many great hunting dogs that are gun shy and miss out the opportunity to hunt because of it. I know several farmers and ranchers personally that don't allow gun hunting because it upsets their animals. **** hunters have it hard enough with the noise their dogs make. Add gunfire to the equation in the middle of the night and they lose otherwise available lands. Varmint hunters in theory could be slightly more effective.

The positives outweigh the negatives many times over, especially when there are no negatives or opponents of the bill.

Just make the calls and help this thing pass. Lack of activism is the only thing that will kill it.

 

Ohio has too many clueless folks hunting, and you want them to take suppressors in the woods? Explain how Ohio hunters could benefit???

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Dan, Earplugs and properly training a dog would take care of that.

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**** dogs make more noise then the one shot it takes to put a **** down.

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first you wanted rifles to be legal in Ohio, now supressors...

NO, i see no reason for it at all. either of them.

 

I would like to be able to use a rifle for the single very simple purpose that ammunition is far cheaper for a rifle than modern slugs are. Otherwise they are not necessary and I agree. But then, I could always use a muzzleloader if I were worried about it right?

 

They give you better accuracy, witch woud be great for squirrel,fox,coyote,an ground hogs. On my 22s i went from 1/2" to 3/16 groups at 25 yards.

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Every rifle should come with a suppressor as standard equipment. We have laws against a car being too loud, when that’s nothing more than an irritation. We try to quiet everything else, why would we want to keep our guns so loud? I think too many people only know of them from the movies. That’s not reality. They don’t eliminate noise, they just lessen it.

 

Yeah let's allow suppressors so when the idiots that already shoot at everything that moves can shoot your direction without you even knowing it. Sounds like a great idea to me!

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I see no purpose at all in having a sound suppressor on a gun for any reason unless it would be to commit a crime. I do all my hunting with a muzzleloader so I try to make my first shot count. it is very rare that I get or need a second shot. but just think of the 10% that would use this to make shots before or after legal shooting hours. I just see no positives to sound suppressors for hunting. I wouldn't use one if I could. but I like being able to hear when someone close to me shoots. so I know where they are hunting, and can stay away from where there hunting.

where I hunt is not that far from a shooting range and hear people shooting all through the day. I have watched deer when these shots are fired and they pay little attention to the sounds of these guns at a distance. so why would anyone want or need a suppressor on there guns??
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Yeah let's allow suppressors so when the idiots that already shoot at everything that moves can shoot your direction without you even knowing it. Sounds like a great idea to me!

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As M.Magis pointed out...

I think too many people only know of them from the movies. That’s not reality. They don’t eliminate noise, they just lessen it.

Bingo! Suppressors suppress noise. They are not the "silencer of death" assassins weapon from Hollywood.

You'll still hear the irresponsible hunter shooting at you quite clearly. The difference is it won't hurt either of your ears so much. The addition or removal of a suppressor isn't going to change what is really wrong with this scenario.

One more positive I forgot to mention is less recoil. A lot of guys are using powerful muzzle loading inline rifles and shotguns that have been converted to rifles using a rifled barrel and sabot bullets. A suppressor will ease the recoil these guns produce. Maybe the wives will shoot them and go hunting too. Of course that may not be a good thing for some of us.

 

I see no purpose at all in having a sound suppressor on a gun for any reason unless it would be to commit a crime. I do all my hunting with a muzzleloader so I try to make my first shot count. it is very rare that I get or need a second shot. but just think of the 10% that would use this to make shots before or after legal shooting hours. I just see no positives to sound suppressors for hunting. I wouldn't use one if I could. but I like being able to hear when someone close to me shoots. so I know where they are hunting, and can stay away from where there hunting.

where I hunt is not that far from a shooting range and hear people shooting all through the day. I have watched deer when these shots are fired and they pay little attention to the sounds of these guns at a distance. so why would anyone want or need a suppressor on there guns??
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The deer that inhabit areas around shooting ranges are conditioned to the gunfire. That is not the case in areas away from shooting ranges.

Regardless, the animals are still going to hear the shot. Little or nothing changes from that aspect. What does change is accuracy, recoil and decibel level. All good things.

 

The deer that inhabit areas around shooting ranges are conditioned to the gunfire. That is not the case in areas away from shooting ranges.

Regardless, the animals are still going to hear the shot. Little or nothing changes from that aspect. What does change is accuracy, recoil and decibel level. All good things.

Taking better shots will increase accuracy, don't shoot a gun if u can't control recoil and wear hearing protection to reduce decibel level. Issues solved without suppressors!

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I’m a little surprised at some of the apparent ignorance in the subject. I thought more hunters would be familiar enough to understand the difference between movie land fantasy vs real life. Guess not. There’s not one logical reason to leave guns louder when there is a way to make them easier on the ears, not one. Once again, they are not “silencers”. It’s baffling to me how anyone could be against it.

 

I'm all for it. I agree with Magis, really surprised at some of the comments on the subject.

 

IMO I have noticed the increase of muzzle mufflers on air guns and their popularity is evident by the manufactures adding them to their line. In Europe most air guns have them on the high end models. I believe some countries require that shooters quieten their shooting by have a muffling device. A local muzzle loading club has restricted usage hours because city folk move to the country and did not like the noise the judge splits the rights of the club and takes away the noise so the city people have their quiet. If we all tread quietly with the antis we will likely keep our rights longer because the noise does not remind them we are here. IMHO

 

I often run a 24 hour trap line & sure would enjoy the stealth of a suppressed firearm.
But DO NOT think it's a tool every person should be allowed to own

but don't know who's job it is to decide..

 

I can see where they would be a good idea at shooting ranges or in areas where your shooting in populated areas where the loud noise could bother someone else. I do use good ear plugs when shooting at the range and have given many pairs away to people that didn't have ear plugs. but if im getting ready to shoot even with ear plugs I have a tendency to move just a little if the person next to me shoots. that's why I wait for a good time to shoot.

I know when I shoot at the range I try to time my shot where I wont dodge from the sound of someone elses shot. but I just don't understand why people want them for hunting. its not that im so much against using them as I guess its just my ignorance as to what the gain would really be while hunting. if someone could explain to me some real pros to using them while hunting maby I could understand a little better.

I do understand that in some shooters accuracy might improve a little. but if you put your time in on the range the shot you make in the woods is over with before you hear the sound of that shot. I guess felt recoil would be the biggest advantage to using a suppressor. but like I said before it would open up a whole new world for poachers that shoot before or after legal shooting times.

but like anything else they make legal I can live with it if its legal. some places don't even allow inline ml rifles some places don't allow scopes on ml in the ml season. some places still don't allow crossbows. if its really something that's going to help hunters or get more young people involved in hunting then im all for it. but right now I see more cons than pros to using suppressors for hunting.
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Again, I don’t think everyone understands that they are NOT silencers. They wouldn’t help poachers even the slightest. By you guys’ reasoning, we should outlaw all calipers below .375, because they’re all not loud enough. Are you all saying that .22s should be made illegal? After all, they’re fairly quiet. .410s, gone. My kids BB guns are surely only for poaching? What’s okay and what’s not? apparently everyone thinks there should be some sort of decibel minimum?
Am I making sense or is no one seeing the hypocrisy of some of the statements here?

 

I haven't heard anything that would make me change my mind on the subject. IMO The only thing a supressor would do for hunters in Ohio is increase the # of the anti gun supporters.

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suppressors on what? slug guns and handguns right? since those are the only ones I think a supressor could go on. not too sure about muzzle loaders.

 

And YES I do understand what a supressor does, and try asking the guy a mile down range if he can hear little Jimmy sporting his new supressor that Daddy purchased for christmas cranking off rounds in a flat corn field becaues he's board.

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i feel supressor or not people that are willing to break the law are going to do so regardless. they dont care whats legal or not so saying its going to make so many more people do it if they have a supressor doesnt make much sence to me. same thing with people just shooting to be shooting. might get some more youth into hunting as well that are a little nervous about shooting shuch a loud gun or reduce the recoil so kids or some women feel more comfortable shooting. JMO

 

still sounds like a waste of time and resources. im still listening to the arguments. but im not sold. like a said all this for a couple decibels.

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