After Reading Papascott's comments here, I am deleting my comments about the price compared to OffShore.



Ron

 

Am I the only one who is weary of Cabelas copying anybodies good anything...having it produced overseas, and selling for 10% under the ones made by the guys who's blood sweat and tears developed the whatever it is in the 1st place.

I know ....it's a world economy, but sure looks and smells like big shot Cabelas trying to beat litle Joe Smoe out of his customers, sales and livelihood.

Sorry... but really !!!

 

Am I the only one who is weary of Cabelas copying anybodies good anything...having it produced overseas, and selling for 10% under the ones made by the guys who's blood sweat and tears developed the whatever it is in the 1st place.

I know ....it's a world economy, but sure looks and smells like big shot Cabelas trying to beat litle Joe Smoe out of his customers, sales and livelihood.

Sorry... but really !!!

Jim I'm right with you. The big shops try this crap all the time not only with copying products but to the shops like erie outfitters and rodmakers on undercutting prices.
All the little guys do is support all of us in anyway they can with tournaments and charity events. You name it.
Ill take care of are own way before ill support the big shops. I hope most do the same. BD
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If I remember right, they did the same thing with Reef Runners a few years back,seems like they copy alot of the products they stock.

 

Personally I will not bad mouth Cabelas. They have been a supporter of tournaments and fishing in general for as long as I've been involved with tournaments.

Jim weren't you on Cabelas pro staff once upon a time? Back in'02?

 

Hagen's is one of Cabela's largest supplier on fishing tackle. Hagen's also makes planer boards so these could be getting made in Mitchell, SD for all anyone knows. Little guys try their best to chop down big guys as well so it's a two way street. Big guys tend to do more damage in a shorter amount of time is all.

 

Scott, Yes I was on their Nt'l Fishing Team around that time, until they guy that knew me, was canned.

They "worked" their pro staffers as well. Let's leave it at that.

 

There is no doubt cabelas has sponsored fishing tournaments and for that im grateful but imo theres a right way to do to business and a wrong way. To undercut your competition by $ 25.00 a board or $2.00 a crank is the wrong way. If all the little guys get squashed then the big guys can monopolies the market eventually and charge $100 a board or $10 a crank. Is that what are industry needs imo I dont think so. We need all of the supporting cast to keep the fishing world growing and squashing the little guys will only hurt in the long run.

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I have offshore boards already and if I needed to replace only one a year or so I wouldn't have a problem spending a few extra bucks on one board and be loyal to the original manufacturer. If I were new to trolling and had to buy 8 at once I'd be a fool not to try a Cabelas brand first and save a ton of money. On the other hand offshore should be trying to find a way to compete. They could offer the board assembled with the OR-18 clip and the tattle flag at a value deal similar to what Cabelas is doing or they will need to find a way to be more efficient processing them to offer a more competitive price. Nobody can fault another for trying to be justifiably cost conservative in purchasing everything they need to be able to troll. In one years time I have spent more money than my wife made just to be able to compete in fishing tournaments. Every chance I had I was buying used or refurbished items so I could buy more. On the flip side my wife says she shouldn't have to work to offset my fishing habit. She is right but I still don't have everything I want yet so she has to keep helping to pay bills rather than buying what she wants. Money is not an endless supply for all and we have to save a few bucks when we can and the manufacturers need to try their best to help us do that as well.

 

:bulgy-eyes:This should get interesting. LOL I do like the offshore boards with the good clips on them. I think those boards were on here last year and made by opti-tackle,pretty much a cross between offshore w/church clips.

 

Cabela's had to pay 10 million bucks in restitution in 2011 for unfair credit card practices. They gotta recoup that money somewhere.

 

There was a big thread on walleye central about these board worth of reading, they are most definitely china made. The thread on WC http://www.walleyecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199476


These Cabelas boards are the Opti Tackle boards that used to sell for 10.99 according to Juls, I found them online at Frank's Great Outdoors for two bucks less than Offshore also at Frank's http://www.franksgreatoutdoors.com/side-planer-left-port-180455.html

Buyer beware is all I will tell you guys, buy them from Franks' if you want a good deal on planer boards, they are by far the cheapest. For Cabelas to take a board and put their name on it and jack up the price is shitty to me but whatever they have great deals on tons of other stuff, as I said buyer beware.

BPS is smokin boulders the want 46.99 for an an Offshore board, f'ing out of their mind. That's more than double than what Frank's charges.

I will never run another board except an offshore regardless of price, I'll find the best deal either locally or online and buy them, I won't run a knock off Reef Runner or board but that's just me.

Jason your wife must be a saint LOL

 

There was a big thread on walleye central about these board worth of reading, they are most definitely china made. The thread on WC http://www.walleyecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199476


These Cabelas boards are the Opti Tackle boards that used to sell for 10.99 according to Juls, I found them online at Frank's Great Outdoors for two bucks less than Offshore also at Frank's http://www.franksgreatoutdoors.com/side-planer-left-port-180455.html

Buyer beware is all I will tell you guys, buy them from Franks' if you want a good deal on planer boards, they are by far the cheapest. For Cabelas to take a board and put their name on it and jack up the price is shitty to me but whatever they have great deals on tons of other stuff, as I said buyer beware.

BPS is smokin boulders the want 46.99 for an an Offshore board, f'ing out of their mind. That's more than double than what Frank's charges.

I will never run another board except an offshore regardless of price, I'll find the best deal either locally or online and buy them, I won't run a knock off Reef Runner or board but that's just me.

Jason your wife must be a saint LOL

Kgone,I bought all my boards from Frank's. offshore combo packs $69

 

Buying standard Offshore boards and clips at Frank's, converting to tattle tales (as I learned here on OGF), figuring out your light system... about $35! Off season fun just like makin' up next season's spinners.... priceless!
Or you could get 2 boards, 2 clips, 2 Tattle Flag kits and a Storage Bag for $70 if I read their catalog correctly. Hard to beat that.

 

She is worthy of way more appreciation than I ever offer that is for sure. I am blessed to have a great woman by my side even when I become overly selfish at times.

 

Most every time I tried to save a nickel, I ultimately ended up buying the real thing. There is a big reason why offshore boards are still around and so well known as the best,....

Just go to Frank's if you're looking for a deal. Erie Outfitters is right around same price.
Bps and cabela's and gander mountain are all crazy priced on most everything.
Shop the smaller shops they will take care of you!
Go into cabelas and ask about running one of the boards... then ask craig......

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Most every time I tried to save a nickel, I ultimately ended up buying the real thing. There is a big reason why offshore boards are still around and so well known as the best,....

Just go to Frank's if you're looking for a deal. Erie Outfitters is right around same price.
Bps and cabela's and gander mountain are all crazy priced on most everything.
Shop the smaller shops they will take care of you!
Go into cabelas and ask about running one of the boards... then ask craig......

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Well said buddy.

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I spend as much money as about anyone at Local shops but to knock Cabelas?

Cabelas sponsors BOTH of the remaining pro level fishing tournaments
They also sponsor some local level tournaments like the lewt. For that reason alone I think they deserve my support. Not all of my business but definitely some.

Offshore Tackle is a great company and makes the best boards by far. To that there is no question and never have questioned that.

I use the offshore boards and only own original reef runners, some of which have been purchased at Cabelas.

 

I guess it all depends on cabelas objective if there selling the new boards just to give a person the option of buying a inferior board for a cheaper price then yes theres no problem with what there doing. If there trying to put a little guy under then imo its wrong and they shouldn't be supported

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I use cabela's quite abit I have no issues with them. But, I will always shop local for what I can for tackle..
Cabela's has got a fortune of mine in hunting equipment and guidewear...

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If the boards are really as close to the Offshore's as presented here, perhaps the design rights expired. I can't see Cabela's risking an infringement lawsuit over this. If this is the case, somebody was going to copy cat the item. Happens all the time. Don't understand why we are bashing the retailer over this.

 

You can't beat Franks deal for the two Offshore boards if you are looking for pairs of boards.

Never mind the boards, how about this deal on a cold weather rain suit!
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/sear...h=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=944187+and+944185&x=0&y=0&WTz_l=Unknown;cat105591780

Bargain Cave mind you.. On sale for $400, normal price $700! You save $300! on a Parka and pants..... I wonder if that one reviewer bought them when they were on sale!?

 

If the boards are really as close to the Offshore's as presented here, perhaps the design rights expired. I can't see Cabela's risking an infringement lawsuit over this. If this is the case, somebody was going to copy cat the item. Happens all the time. Don't understand why we are bashing the retailer over this.

Someone said they were never patented to begin with. Not sure.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...4&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1="planer+board"&OS="planer+board"&RS="planer+board"

Looks like Hagen(Mitchell?) should be the ones that should take issue here.. heh. You can't really patent an idea thats already patented. Now if they improved on the idea, they can patent that particular part or design.

Theres quite a few other patents regarding planers, releases and trolling gear. Some of its pretty neat stuff.

 

we should all just continue to shop at walmart while we're at it. make sure to bring some ice for when CHINA sticks it in again. please buy american people.

 

As a business owner of a couple of self made businesses I see both sides. I do support the small guy because that is who I am. Infact most of my stuff I have and buy is bought from local shops etc. I strongly believe that you get what pay for. That is why I research what I buy. I will always try to buy an American made product. Many times I will not buy something because it is foreign made junk (just ask my kids lol). Also I am a smart consumer which means I do my research for before I spend my hard earned money. The topic that came up here is simply consumer driven. It is the consumer who asked for the cheaper prices (just ask walmart they can show you the results of their surveys). It is the consumer who by doing this asked for large corporations to outsource and find a cheaper way. Whether that be design or manufacturing. The consumer shows their support by buying the products. That is why I ask questions and do research before I buy.

It is up to us the CONSUMER to do our research and buy quality. It is up to us the CONSUMER and support the small guy and buy AMERICAN.

For example
In this case Offshore planer boards are a great product that I use. Cabelas makes several great products that I use. However I have also had some not so pleasant experiences with Cabelas products (including self labeled products). At the same time Offshore makes a board that is expensive. In addition when I purchase an offshore board I have to buy more expensive products to make it fit my needs. That is not consumer friendly.

So my opinion is this.... I do not want to see the big guys like cabelas come in and steal Offshore's ideas and make the same product in cheaper quality, manufacture it cheaper and sell it cheaper and hurt the small guy. But at the same time it is up to the small guy (in this case offshore) to make their products more appealing. We who use it know that it works great however if offshore did a study they would find out that many users (at least on Lake Erie) dislike the idea of buying the boards and the parts to make it a tattle flag with a snapper release. Therefore I think offshore should do their part to protect THEiR BUSINESS and work on offering their board in a version that has a tattle flag and snapper release pre installed and rigged (lake Erie ready). It may boost sales while maintaining customer loyalty and protect them from losing them to the Cabelas of the world.

FYI Cabelas started as the "small guy" Infact they started the company by offering free fishing flies. Once the consumer tried them they came back for more and was willing to pay for them. Pretty cool business success story really. Now a global leader. The opportunity to do this and the people of this great country is what makes AMERICA the GREATEST nation on earth!!!!!