i would have just retreived my deer.then accepted my ticket for tresspassing

 

I would of if I had been down there. I was on the other side of the farm at the time.

The thing that really gets me is the fact that once my dad was walking back to his stand he heard a kid yell there it is! Some people are pathetic!

 

Over 35 years ago I shot a nice 10 point up in the hills of Pa. Two men came up to me and asked if I needed help dragging it out, I told them that would be nice,. One picked up the rope the other pulled his gun up and told me to empty my gun the other came over and took the spare shells out of my pockets. They told me not to follow them, after an hour my uncle showed up he and I followed the drag marks to the road where they loaded my deer into there car. I almost gave up deer hunting, but from that day on I always had three bullets taped to my leg under my sox. I swore that would never happen again.
So r9ptbuck If I would have been your dad and I knew that property did not belong to that guy, I would have told him to kiss my A-- and went after my deer. Sorry about his loss. I know how he feels.

 

Damn crappie lover! you're lucky they didn't take your gun too......or hurt you bad.

Man alive - I'd really go bezerk if something like this happened to me. First off - r9ptbuck - who was that guy that asked if your pops was lost? You said the owner died two years ago......so who's this guy?? I'd have told him to take a flying leap........and went and got my deer.

I'm hearing more and more of this crap happening all the time - I'm glad I've got a nice little (450 acres) of PRIVATE land to hunt.......don't have to worry about this crap.

good luck to you guys!

 

You are right Skarfer I thought about that for years and I could not figure out why thay left my gun, the only thing I could think of was if they took my gun that would be armed robbery, taking my deer was only stealing a deer.

 

You're right - I thought about that more after I typed that and agree. There's really no "proof" they stole your deer.......I mean if it came down to it, it'd be your word against two of theirs.......you know?

But if they had your gun - different story.........they are just lucky you didn't have any ammo left!

 

I dont know who they were but from now on I plan on carrying my pistol. Im glad they changed the cc law for hunters. Those guys always walk down our logging road during gun season but you can bet on Saturday I will be sitting down there and they wont be stepping foot on our property.

 

We always joke where I hunt - that it's open season on the amish......one buck and unlimited bag of amish.

haha.

Those guys don't care where they are, who's property they are trespassing on or anything! Just about every year we see a vanload of them pull up, they then pile out and run amuck all day. My buddys dad and his friend purposely take a week off and stay at the farm to basically hunt a little, but mostly to police the land - all due to the amish.

 

r9ptbuck, I'm afraid your story lacks a BUNCH of details. You are required to gain permission before tracking an animal onto private ground.

After trailing the blood to the road my dad gets approached by some dick that ask if he is lost?? Now keep in mind this guy dosent even own the property, the owner died two years ago

Your saying that no one owns the property? Guess what, someone DOES own it, and maybe that was the new owner. From your story, it sounds like you think someone took a deer your dad shot, but you don't really know. Getting to know your neigbors goes a long ways towards preventing problems like this.

 

years ago I had a guy with 4 of his buddies level a 12 gauge at my chest while they drug off a nice 10 point that I had dropped in its tracks. \
The conversation at first was rather polite with them claiming that they had shot it but when I told them I had hit it in the spine and dropped it where it stood the converstation changed and out came the old shotgun and off went the deer..I was also on private property with supposedly nobody else having permission to be there. I tried to follow up with police but not much interest by them or proof by me.
Old grizzly thing would have tsted like shoe leather anyways.

 

Theres always worthless pieces of s$*! out there like that. And it ruins it for the rest of us. No wonder why so many people put of no tresspassing signs or no hunting, because they got screwed over by the worthless ones. mabey one day people will get morrals, or mabey they will be the ones that get shot in the woods.

Darwins theory of evolution just aint working fast enought for me. Mabey the worthless pieces are just breeding too fast for evolution to thin them out. Mabey we should help give it a jump start?

 

TomC

AMEN brother!

 

M.Magis are you the one who took the deer??? Sounds like you are pretty deffinsive. Our piece butts up to this other property and yes someone does own it but she is an old lady that lives an hour away in another county.

And what do you mean I dont know?? My dad shot the deer and droped it and just happen to craw its way down to the neighbors property. They never even fired a shot! We have had our property for 9 years and have never had any issues like this. We know all the neighbors and get along with everyone. We have helped others recover deer on our land and have never had a problem with someone looking for a deer on there.

Someone that steals a deer and then claims it as there own are worthless pieces of garbage! Payback sucks cause we are getting our land resurveyed and are going to post it. Unfortante for them I hold a grudge!

We work way to hard planting crops, putting hundreds of hours on stand to have some once a year hunter come down and steal a deer so he can tell his city slicker friends he shot it!

 

So did I miss where you actually saw them take the deer? All I see is a story about a deer crossing the property line. That was my point. Again, your story leaves a lot to be desired, as does your language and attitude.

 

The day someone points a gun at me will be the last day on earth for them. I am getting enraged just thinking about it happening...........

How many of these guys do you think would actually pull the trigger - and risk killing someone, being put to death or spend the rest of their lives in jail over a DEER???

thank God I've got the training to know how to handle a situation like that - and I pity the man that ever tries to do that to me...........

 

Technically speaking it would be a violation to retrieve that deer from that property without written permission.

http://www.ohiodnr.com/wildlife/dow/regulations/hunting_deer.aspx#cannot_do

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Pursue wounded deer or other wild animals or recover dead deer or other wild animals from private property without the written permission of the landowner.

 

I dont have an attitude, unless you make unfair assumptions. And last I checke garbage wasnt a bad word! When my dad was on his way back to his stand he heard a kid yell there it is! My dad from his stand could then see the guy run down through the swamp. It was pretty obvious that he saw the deer go down and was waiting until he saw the shooter (my dad) come trailing it. All this while his kid was looking for it.

 

Sporty-i understand what it says in the book. I feel that the guy not being a land owner had no right to tell us we couldnt look for the deer. I also felt or thought that there was more sportsman like me, who purse deer/wild game for the thrill of the hunt. Not for the animal its self. And I especially wouldnt want an animal I didnt harvest.

 

crappie lover, if they were holding a gun while making you unload yours and stealing your deer, with implied threats, it was armed robbery. any theft while in possession of a firearm is considered armed robbery.

 

i know this is a "hot" topic,and people will disagee and voice their opinions,but respect the rules of the site and please watch your language,people.

 

I understand that point as well and I do hear your frustration with what happened

The thing to do would have been to call the game warden if a wounded animal crossed the property line and you didn't have the written permission. It could be they didn't have permission to be there either and could have wound up in trouble.

What really gets me is all this chest puffing bravado about who's going to get what done to them if the so and so does this to me. It's a deer!!!! It's not worth getting killed or killing over.

 

What really gets me is all this chest puffing bravado about who's going to get what done to them if the so and so does this to me. It's a deer!!!! It's not worth getting killed or killing over.

Thank You Sporty!!!!!!! This is like the 'You throw rocks I'll throw lead' mentality that was brought up in the Lake Erie section last summer. Why do people confront others? They have no clue on the mentality of that person. If I have a problem with someone. I'll let the law deal with it. I am not going to get into a shoot out over some dumbarse person and taking the chance of going to prison!

r9ptbuck,Skarfer. They do allow your kids to visit you in prisons AFTER a strip search. You want to submit your child to that? Shot someone over something stupid like this and thats whats going to happen. Call the law.



M.Magis why are you such a instigator?

 

Excuse me - but here's my original quote:

"The day someone points a gun at me will be the last day on earth for them. I am getting enraged just thinking about it happening..........."

I'm talking about someone pointing a gun at me! I'm not talking about "killing" someone for not letting me on their property........I don't think that was ever said in this entire thread...........

Besided - you point your gun at me, that's a felony - and I'd be justified in beating your arse within an inch of your life - that's called self defense.

 

I don't question the fact IF your life is in immediate danger you're justified in protecting yourself.

If they are pointing the gun at you at that time and you have the training and opportunity to protect your life - by all means!

If someone points a gun at you then drops it - you are not longer in danger and you are the felon if you commit battery on them at that point.

Someone that has the training to deal with a situation like this - certainly should have received training in the legalities.

 

M.Magis why are you such a instigator?

Pardon me? I think it was a legitimate question. I still don’t see anything that suggests that the other hunter wasn’t well within their rights. I also don’t see anything even resembling proof that the deer was taken, or mortally wounded. A deer that drops does not mean the shot was lethal. I also believe there is a little more to the story. I like to have clarification before drawing any conclusions rather than jumping on the tough guy bandwagon