Please see the below. No one should have to go through this ......
"I don't have time to deal with this, I have hundreds of people coming to an awards dinner tomorrow."
Those are the words I never thought I'd here from the fall Brawl. But when their polygraph examiner admitted he didn't complete the first test correctly and recommended a second, that is what Frank Murphy told me when he DQ my son.
It was my first polygraph, and I wasn't prepared for the fact that it would be falsified and didn't know anything about them. Hopefully, the below can help someone avoid the same treatment I was given.
Before the test, talk with a lawyer. Have him present for the test. Have the test recorded.
Ed Farve - he falsified my test, my report and in my opinion, was questionable on reports of others. Three other polygraph examiners have confirmed his wrong doing on my test. Do not let him give you a test.
Wavier -there is no reason to sign a wavier which protects the examiner from being sued, if he gives you a falsified polygraph. You already signed a wavier to enter the tournament.
Relevant questions - These are the questions that are heart of the test. The fall brawl's polygraph examiner told me to lie for one of the questions instead of properly formulating the relevant questions, as should have been completed. He covered for the fact that the tournament wasn't following their written rules. If you don't agree 100% with the questions, do not take the test.
Equipment. It should be a computer test, not the less accurate analog test with pens and paper. If you are forced to take a test on outdated testing equipment, take pictures of the results. In my test, Ed refused to turn over the results for evaluation for outside review.
Test report. Demand in writing that you be given a copy of the test report within 24 hours of taking it. After being disqualified, both Frank and Ed refused to give me a copy of the report used to disqualify me son. Months later, I obtained a copy and determined information on the report was missing and falsified.
Environment. Tests should be given in a small room, with minimal distractions, which can influence the results of the test. Ed gave me the test in a large room, facing an open window, over looking the parking lot. This shows lack of the basic understanding of how a polygraph should be given and can help lead to an inaccurate test.
Base questions. Base questions are asked before the test so the examiner understands how the person reacts to lieing. The obsolete way is to ask you to pick a number, then the examiner asks you to say no when he ask you if a number is the one you picked, as he goes through a series of numbers. This is the method that Ed used, and he was unable to tell when I lied. Walk if the examiner is unable to complete this correctly, as it shows incompetence and use of outdated techniques.
Do not take a test for someone else. I took it for my son, at the urging of Frank and Ed. They said it was best for my 15 year old son, but failed to tell me that a 13 year old was successfully given the test in the past. By me taking the test for my son, the entire test was wrongly completed. There is a rumour that I can't clarify that it is against the law to give someone under age of 16. If that is the case, then the fall brawl's examiner broke the law in the past.
Second test. Take a second test but an outside person certified by a national association. I passed a second test, that was properly completed. That examiner couldn't believe how poorly the test by Ed Farve was completed.
I hope this helps. In my case, Frank was very specific that my son was being dq'ed based on the polygraph results, and that "he never had given a second test in the past, and wouldn't in my case". So, even though he wasn't following his own written rules, he was quick to enforce his rule that the polygraph be passed. Of interest in my case, Frank changed the written rule that he wasn't following, the next year. Remember, polygraphs are not allowed as evidence in court, because they are not always accurate. Protect yourself ! You don't want the impact to you and/or your child.
"I don't have time to deal with this, I have hundreds of people coming to an awards dinner tomorrow."
Those are the words I never thought I'd here from the fall Brawl. But when their polygraph examiner admitted he didn't complete the first test correctly and recommended a second, that is what Frank Murphy told me when he DQ my son.
It was my first polygraph, and I wasn't prepared for the fact that it would be falsified and didn't know anything about them. Hopefully, the below can help someone avoid the same treatment I was given.
Before the test, talk with a lawyer. Have him present for the test. Have the test recorded.
Ed Farve - he falsified my test, my report and in my opinion, was questionable on reports of others. Three other polygraph examiners have confirmed his wrong doing on my test. Do not let him give you a test.
Wavier -there is no reason to sign a wavier which protects the examiner from being sued, if he gives you a falsified polygraph. You already signed a wavier to enter the tournament.
Relevant questions - These are the questions that are heart of the test. The fall brawl's polygraph examiner told me to lie for one of the questions instead of properly formulating the relevant questions, as should have been completed. He covered for the fact that the tournament wasn't following their written rules. If you don't agree 100% with the questions, do not take the test.
Equipment. It should be a computer test, not the less accurate analog test with pens and paper. If you are forced to take a test on outdated testing equipment, take pictures of the results. In my test, Ed refused to turn over the results for evaluation for outside review.
Test report. Demand in writing that you be given a copy of the test report within 24 hours of taking it. After being disqualified, both Frank and Ed refused to give me a copy of the report used to disqualify me son. Months later, I obtained a copy and determined information on the report was missing and falsified.
Environment. Tests should be given in a small room, with minimal distractions, which can influence the results of the test. Ed gave me the test in a large room, facing an open window, over looking the parking lot. This shows lack of the basic understanding of how a polygraph should be given and can help lead to an inaccurate test.
Base questions. Base questions are asked before the test so the examiner understands how the person reacts to lieing. The obsolete way is to ask you to pick a number, then the examiner asks you to say no when he ask you if a number is the one you picked, as he goes through a series of numbers. This is the method that Ed used, and he was unable to tell when I lied. Walk if the examiner is unable to complete this correctly, as it shows incompetence and use of outdated techniques.
Do not take a test for someone else. I took it for my son, at the urging of Frank and Ed. They said it was best for my 15 year old son, but failed to tell me that a 13 year old was successfully given the test in the past. By me taking the test for my son, the entire test was wrongly completed. There is a rumour that I can't clarify that it is against the law to give someone under age of 16. If that is the case, then the fall brawl's examiner broke the law in the past.
Second test. Take a second test but an outside person certified by a national association. I passed a second test, that was properly completed. That examiner couldn't believe how poorly the test by Ed Farve was completed.
I hope this helps. In my case, Frank was very specific that my son was being dq'ed based on the polygraph results, and that "he never had given a second test in the past, and wouldn't in my case". So, even though he wasn't following his own written rules, he was quick to enforce his rule that the polygraph be passed. Of interest in my case, Frank changed the written rule that he wasn't following, the next year. Remember, polygraphs are not allowed as evidence in court, because they are not always accurate. Protect yourself ! You don't want the impact to you and/or your child.
