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Coyote problem

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#1 ·
How many others here are tired of the growing problem with coyotes in their deer hunting areas...? We have owned/hunted property in Perry Co for 30 yrs when there were none, and seen the coyote population expand each of the last 10-15 yrs. A few yrs ago we started seeing them in trail cams, then caught images of them with fawns in their mouths. Now you hear them howl from every ridge top almost nightly, and we are seeing them from tree stands regularly. These trends define an unchecked expanding population boom that has our deer herd on the decline. This past weekend, one of our hunters had one trot up to 20yds with a painted wooden stake we use for distance markers at stands in it's mouth...? NO idea what the critter had in mind with that stake but these encounters are a wake up call...
I have heard DOW folks continue to ignore the impact on our heard, and show no interest in any bounty program....I disagree...Our forefathers cleared tis land of predators with a bounty system, and it is time to bring this back for coyotes before the deer herd slides back to 1950's levels...don't think it can't happen.
I would like feed back on how many would be interested in working with state hunting organizations to fund a "private" bounty program rewarding anyone who produces a coyote carcass....?
 
#22 ·
I guess I'll reply to Muddy as he hit on the most important aspect... " A bounty is never going to happen" The obvious question is " Why"....? Several here have identified the real problem, that not enough people trap, hunt, pursue coyotes to make a dent in their population explosion. Why don't "us hunters" devote the time to killing them...?
First reason is from experience I can vouch for the fact that they are much harder to kill than a deer, turkey, or even a fox... been trying for years...! Another reason is motivation...I would love to see them gone, but find it hard to devote time, and dollars in equipment to such a low probability of success.
Some of you will remember the fur price spike of the early 80's...$ 8 muskrats,$25 ****, $45 fox etc... I bought many Christmas gifts for my young family with those dollars...you had to be quick to pick up a roadkill before it went into another car trunk... everyone was on the lookout for some quick serious money.
Money is a great motivator....How many more "coyote hunters" would we have if instead of a possible $ 12-15 for the pelt, we could be guaranteed $ 50 a kill.... go out on a good night and kill or trap several and come away with some serious jack....? ODNR will never cooperate with this but private groups/ outdoorsmen could fund this without their involvement.... Thoughts....?
 
#9 ·
Sorry but the fact is there here to stay and the odds are when the end time comes in my opinion they will be one of the last living things on earth . They know how to adapt and survive anywhere Just ask people in western states they have trapped , shot , and years ago even tried to poison them out to no avail. and this is a lot of big open country . You need to do as others have stated shoot them when you can and trap them as well and keep the heat on them and not let up !
 
#11 ·
lol,,, I just wrote Aqua a FYI, PM.
ALL HE HAS TO DO IS GIVE SOMEONE PERMISSION TO HUNT 'EM AFTER SEASON,,,, or
a PLACE TO PARK A CAMPER ON HIS PROPERTY!!!
The yotes are all over the State Game Lands,,, down around Zanesville, Dresden, Dillion,,,,,, Muskingum River. I know that for fact.
Put out some fish carcasses in a hanging basket, or a road-kill gut pile, up on a stump.
If you feed 'em,,,, they will come! ;>)
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#13 ·
Don't get me wrong cause I surely agree that every yote we can kill is a plus, but IMO, hunting alone just is not enough. Just too many pups born per year. And actually, I've read a few studies that even suggest that just hunting them, thinning them a little may do more harm as far as controlling population cause the females instinctively throw more pups to fight for their survival when their numbers start getting thinned out.
Again, IMO, consistent combo of trapping and hunting is the only way they will ever be controlled. And in most cases, that's just not going to happen due to the fact there just aren't that many people still trapping.
 
#16 ·
We have them here in Medina. They were raising all sorts of hell the other night. Sounded like they were killing another animal or one of the neighbors feral cats. I have considered baiting them and picking them off from the family room during the early dawn hours. If the feral cat/kitten problem continues to decline I will probably start feeding them,,,,,,,,,,,:rolleyes:;):D:D
 
#17 · (Edited)
No more feral cats is the plus to having yotes. We've lived at this residence going on 18yrs. When we first moved in, woods and surrounding areas were infested with feral cats as well as packs of dogs. This seems to be a great area for irresponsible morons that like to dump their unwanted animals off for someone else to have to deal with.:mad:
Anyway, about 10yrs when the yotes really started to populate this area more heavily, the feral cat ago population started to thin out. Currently, we don't see any around. Nor are the dog packs around.
The rabbit and turkey population has also decreased as well as deer population. People around that had free range chickens don't have them anymore either. As far as the decreasing deer population, I'd bet this herd just cannot withstand the human hunting pressure coupled with the yote pressure.
 
#23 ·
I kill them by baiting them into a motion detector. This set up allows me to pursue them 24/7 (when I’m at home). It’s a pretty low cost and time efficient method of killing them. I would encourage everyone to try it who lives outside of town. Between my bait/shoot method and the guy next door who snares them, we put a hurting on them every year. It has helped the local deer herd.
 
#24 ·
I hunt land in Perry County as well. First year hunting down there. I've had trail camera's out since June and I've only got 1 on camera to date. If I see one and there is an opportunity to shoot it, I will. What's odd to me is that I've been hunting 25+ years and have only seen 1 from the stand. Crazy when you think about the amount of hours and days I've spent in the stand.
 
#25 · (Edited)
I doubt you'd ever find a reliable source of money to fund a bounty much less find enough people willing to pursue the coyotes even if the money were available. Most efforts and the results would be minimal at best. In order to be effective the hunting/trapping pressure would have to be relentless and complete, meaning every property in a given area would have to have people pursuing coyotes. Meaning any properties left unhunted would simply be breeding ground to replenish the population.
The property I hunt has 2 different people who hunt coyotes. These guys do what they can but it's simply not enough. One guys favorite spot is to hunt the rolled up hay bales. His thought are the mice are attracted to all the seeds in the hay, the coyotes come in to get the mice. He killed 20 yotes in 2017 but only 13 so far this year.
Most people simply don't have the time nor the desire to hunt yotes to be effective.
 
#28 ·
I have decided to start addressing my AWEFUL coyote problem. I live between two old limestone quarries and they are filthy with them.
I moved into this house 15 years ago and it was not unusual to see 30 or more turkeys in the back yard. Now i see none. Just invested in some snares not to mention the calls and decoys from last year.
I believe you guys are right, just have to stay on'm to keep the numbers down.
This was my back yard in 2015, after most of the turks vanished.
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#29 ·
Had the same here before the yote on slot $diesel$.
We moved here in a November. They had to extend the leach bed about 200ft to bring it to code. At any rate, when they got done, it was too late to plant grass seed in that portion of the yard so they put in winter wheat to hold the ground for the winter.
The next Spring, the wife and I counted 40+ turkey picking around in the wheat.
This past summer, we had two hens with, if I remember correctly, eleven poults that showed up about every day. As time went on, the poults dwindled until there were only 3-4 left.
Also, several years ago, on a very hot summer day, I pulled in the driveway at about 3pm, stepped out of the truck to hear an awful sound coming from down in the ravine.
Ran through the house, grabbed a pistol and ran to the ravine. As I got to the top of the ravine, about 30yds down in the bottom were three yotes that had an adult doe down. They were lunging,biting at her hind quarters. She was making sounds that would make your hair stand on end. Got a few feet down the bank before they saw me and when they did, they didn't run...just stopped attacking the doe. I was able to kill two and missed the third as it finally ran up the other bank.
i sit down and watched the doe for a long time as she layed there trying to get up enough energy to get up. It was clear from the froth coming from her mouth that they had just run her in the heat until she dropped. She finally got up, stood around for another few minutes and finally started up the ravine. It didn't look as though her injuries were bad as I saw no blood coming from her.
 
#30 ·
Looking back in time, I recall my son and I seeing and shooting the first coyote I had encountered in Noble County, SE Ohio. That was forty years ago! I believe the Yotes were just starting to move North and East at that time as there had been several reports of sightings in SW, Ohio. When did you start encountering them?
 
#31 ·
I've been here going on 18yrs. Noticed what seems to have been a big increase probably 10-11yrs ago.
My neighbor that farms and runs about 70-80 head of cattle has been here since the early 70's. He said he believes there's been a huge increase in about the same time frame. He's had so many issues with calving cows and yotes that he is seriously considering getting a llama to run with the herd. We hear yotes here every night. But I can always tell if he's got a cow down calving cause the yotes hear her bellowing, know the cow is down and they are extra vocal from his way
 
#34 ·
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There not that hard to hunt once you learn there language . Just like turkey hunting you got to get out and do it and learn from your mistakes . Once you cal l a couple in you'll be hooked its definetly a rush. Only real advise is keep it simple don't over think it - there smart but not that smart. Jan. -Feb. best time - just like deer in rut there hormones rule there lives and its good practice if you use your deer rifle .