I'm looking to buy a Vexilar FL20 Ultra Pak. If you got one this year and really can't stand the whole ice fishing thing I can, maybe, help you out . I also have a couple of in-line muzzle loaders I'd be willing to swap out if anyone is interested. (I know, my timing on that is impecable). I have a Black Knight 50cal. and I have a TC FireHawk 53cal. I've had both about 15 years, since new, and neither shot more than a dozen times. Neither are 209 primer type, they predate that handy option.