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Where to buy your gas

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by goodday, Apr 4, 2005.

  1. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oilcompanies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil :


    Shell............................. 205,742,000 barrels
    Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
    Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
    Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
    Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels


    Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern
    oil:


    >
    > Citgo.......................0 barrels
    > Sunoco...................0 barrels
    > Conoco...................0 barrels
    > Sinclair....................0 barrels
    > BP/Phillips..............0 barrels
    > Hess.......................0 barrels
    > ARC0.....................0 barrels
    >
    >
    > All of this information is available from the Department of Energy
    > and each is required to state where they get their oil.
     
  2. Very interesting! Something to keep in mind! Thanks for the info.

    Eric
     

  3. So is it better to buy from a company that imports it from some place other than the Middle East? Those companies that are not getting it from the Middle East are getting it from some place else other than the US.
     
  4. What a conundrum!

    I don't quite know how to react to the numbers listed. My first thought is stay away from middle east oil. Who needs them? Then my second thought is with all of the people in the US that do not allow us to take oil from our own lands how else are we suppose to get the supply? From South American supply? Sure if it is affordable. Evidently wherever these others (those not importing from Middle East) are getting their oil, they must not be getting any cheaper or any higher for that matter since they all charge about the same price. So it still comes down to overall demand. And the big thing is we as a country need to somehow reduce our consumption. We truly are energy hogs as a nation. I think we all need to think about how we can do our part.
     
  5. I agree with ya, I dont want to support the Middle East either or South America for that matter. The US has a lot more restrictions as far as envirnmental issues that other countries dont have to worry about. As a fisherman and outdoor lover I'm glad that companies in the US cant pollute the air and water at will but at the same time that means buying a lot of products from other countries that dont worry too much about their envirnment.
     
  6. Our local stations just jumped up to 2.34 today. And we have not even gotten into the summer high demand season.:(
     
  7. http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/saudigas.asp

    ANOTHER URBAN LEGEND



    Has AMOCo at ..62,231,000 barrels
    and BP/Phillips..............0 barrels Amoci and BP are the same..

    Bp is an Enlish owned companY baseD on the orginal ARAMCO - arabian - American oil co,
    This looks like one of those


    Shell............................. 205,742,000 barrels
    Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
    Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
    Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
    Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels


    Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern
    oil:


    >
    > Citgo.......................0 barrels
    > Sunoco...................0 barrels
    > Conoco...................0 barrels
    > Sinclair....................0 barrels
    > BP/Phillips..............0 barrels
    > Hess.......................0 barrels
    > ARC0.....................0 barrels
     
  8. Did u notice the smell of some of the gas u get. Stale! The govnt standards are 50% for the additives. The shelf life on them is 6-8 months. That makes it stale when u get it. Use the additives to treat accordinly(not octane boost)to illiminate knocks and pings. Its hard on emissions guys! Lose your MPG.$$$$$$Let alone the repaire cost!$$$$$$
    As far as were to buy it...... :confused: I guess PA is becoming a green state and are planning on using diesel/gas mix. Things to come!
    ANYONE SEE MY HORSE?????? :D :p
     
  9. I actually just heard a report yesterday on the radio that indicated that the gas treatment additives did little or nothing to the gas and the car's performance. They more or less pertrayed them as a hoax. I have used them only on a rare occasion and have never noticed much effect. I do use Dry gas type products at times when I feel that I have moisture and that seems to help.
     
  10. OPEC countries are not all middle east...
    Also don't complain about gas prices while driving a vehicle that is
    consuming gas at under 20 MPG... :rolleyes:
    I sold all my gas guzzling vehicles several years ago and now have a escort wagon and a plymouth grand voyager minivan...:D
    I think auto makers must have some foot in the gas industry by making all the gas guzzling vehicles and not putting enough effort into more efficient running vehicles...:mad:
    PROFITS PROFITS PROFITS...
    Maybe someone should ask Bush how his oil revs are doing :rolleyes:

    Next time we vote for a president I hope everyone
    excludes one that has oil ties [​IMG]
     
  11. As long as people keep buying the gas guzzlers the auto makers will keep making them. Cant really blame them if I could build something that nobody needed but I could make them think they needed it and could sell it for 50 grand, why not. I think most of those big gas guzzling suv's are used in the same way your mini van is, to hauls kids around and go to the store, not to drive through the jungle or go through 2 feet of snow!
     
  12. Exactly what I was thinking. I do have a van that gets 18MPG but I drive it to work each day (5 miles each way). Last year we bought a Ford Focus. I never thought I would go that route because it is rather small but we just had to get used to it when travelling. But when you get nearly double the mileage it makes a noticeable difference. I figure we are saving over $500 in gas costs per year. And that is not even comparing to some of the huge gas guzzlers that get barely better than 10 MPG. I recognize that many need the vehicle to pull the boat. That is where my van comes in but it is not our primary travel vehicle except for when we need the extra room or to tow.
     
  13. UFM82

    UFM82 The one others want to be

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    That's the only reason he even bothered to be elected anyway- so he could make a few more bucks selling oil. Are you really that obtuse?

    I've got some real terrifying news for you. Bush hasn't got a derned thing to do with how much gas costs. He doesn't call the heads of ALL the oil companies and tell them to raise the prices. ( Are you saying he owns EVERY oil company out there?) In my area, every station is within a penny or two of each other on price. You're saying that Bush controls them all? That's laughable.

    You don't want to elect someone who has oil ties. How about legal ties? Clinton is a lawyer- don't lawyers stink? Cheney was an officer for a large corporation. They make too much money too- eliminate him. Doctors make too much money- we shouldn't elect one of those either. How about a business person at all? They all make too much money- can't elect them. Heck, Generals in the military have all that power- they'd be the last people we should elect; they might take over the country!

    No, by all means, lets elect Bubba from down at the Quik-Lube. he doesn't know much about anything. That would be soooooooooo much better. Get real.

    The current oil price deal is long overdue. Demand worldwide has steadily grown to the point that the supply simply cannot keep up. Not the supply from OPEC or other sources- the supply of available refined product. The refineries are working constantly on numerous formulations that our Government and the EPS have decided must be made. We are taxed heavily on gas, we don't drive any less than we used too, we don't carpool because it's not convenient. When gas goes up, everyone wrings their hands and decides that fuel-efficient cars are the way to go. Look at the compacts, the hybrids, the electric cars. They get good mileage, but try to resell one. They arent worth anything near what you pay for them 5 minutes after you drive them off the lot. They can't give away a hybrid vehicle and electric vehicles don't sell at all. What's the #1 best selling vehicle in the US? A truck. A big honkin' V8 truck that gets less than 20 mpg. When gas prices stabilize or drop, here come the big engines. Dodge brought back the thirsty Hemi- there are two Big Three manufacturers that produced V10s recently. 15 mph was touted as "decent mileage" for these vehicles. A Ford Excursion, Chevy Suburban or big Dodge Ram get less than 20 mpg by far, yet they are driven by wives going to the store more than they tow a boat. I could drive a Prius or a Kia or a Honda but my lifestyle won't allow it. I pay for my choices by sacrificing in other areas.

    You don't complain when your house appreciates 10% a year do you? Would you whine if your stocks doubles in value in a year? How about that parcel of land- you paid $100,000 and now it's worth $400,00. Do you not take the increase?

    You have to make adjustments. Your lifestyle must change if you can't afford the gas. Cancel the satellite or the cable or the cell phone or the 6 pack a night habit. Stop smoking 2 packs a day- that's $7 or better. Don't eat out everyday- that's $10 a day. Etc. Etc. Etc.

    It's gonna get worse and now that we have broken the dreaded $2 a gallon hurdle, expect ot to stay that way for a while. Remember years ago when anti-freeze was $2 a gallon for "the good stuff" like Prestone? Then there was a factory fire at one of the two plants in the country that made anti-freeze. Prices went from $2 to $6 overnight. They said that it was a temporary increase until capacity came back to speed. Well, guess what- I never saw the $2 a gallon price again. Imagine that.

    You gotta live with it 'cause it ain't going away.

    UFM82
     
  14. So if you drive the car for 10 years its going to save you 5 grand, I'm sure the car cost more than that so is it really worth it? I'm not disagreeing with you cause I do the same thing I have a Dodge Stratus that gets like 28mpg I drive to work and stuff and then a truck for fishing. I have never figured out how much I save by having 2 vehicles but I always wonder if its really worth it. My truck is just little ranger and still gets close to 20mpg so I'm sure you save more than i would but I keep wondering how much do I really save by having 2 vehicles and paying insurance on both and maint. and other stuff.
     
  15. That's exactly why I purchased a 2001 Honda Civic, it get's 36miles per gallon on my drive to work and even more on trips.
     
  16. UFM82...
    LMAO...
    Still on the learning curve eh?
    "nough said"...
     
  17. So does the gas savings on the Civic out weigh the cost of another car?
     
  18. If we were to buy the car just for the mileage and keep all other vehicles then , yes we would pay more. I would not say 10K more because by driving it you save mileage and wear and tear on your more expensive vehicle. Because of this I will not be looking to buy a new van in another year or so like I would if we were still putting 15,000-20,000 miles a year on it. Really if you are intent on running your cars until they wear out then the only real increase in cost is the insurance and tags, etc. You will still be paying maintenance on either vehicle and at a comparable rate provided you drive the same number of miles per year in both cases. I would say that you are much better of having both vehicles since your saving money each year on gas and you should not need to buy a vehicle for quite a while.
     
  19. UFM...your my hero! lol... amazing how logic and reason triumph over ignorance and stupity every time.
     
  20. Master Angler I thought you took a month off?
    Seems you still have 27 days to go yet :)

    Great to see you back always good for laugh or two cause when anyone
    agrees with you or visa versa... well you get the point :F
     
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