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As I'm sure all of you are aware, there has been a MASSIVE increase in the amount of people enjoying the natural resources throughout the nation.
With so many businesses and indoor activities being shut down, many folks decided to get that first kayak,get that first boat,buy their first zebco 404 and go enjoy what Ohio has to offer.

In many ways this was great,getting folks out and discovering the natural world,that there is more to earth than cement and neon lights.
But for those that have been out enjoying our limited outdoor resources for many years,its become a nuisance and a hindrance,we feel crowded and dismayed.
Everywhere you go its crowds, waiting, trash.....
Think back 10,20,30,40,50 and even 60 years for some of you fellers. Most of our resivours,if not all were created by then and well into beginning decent fisheries,full of structure and fresh.

Now that you've thought back,you can remember getting out on these lakes and rivers some days and feel like you have it all to yourself, you can hear the birds,not get blown away by continuous wake and boats crowding you if they see you with a fish. Not waiting up to an hour to load and unload your boat.

Welcome to back to 2020. All these new boat and kayak purchases are not going to disappear in 2021. All the people that have learned to enjoy our natural world are not going to just give it up in 2021.

The human population increases every year and within so many years, what you are seeing now will be the new normal and then some,and all our natural places of refuge are going to become louder and busier,with less to go around. Heck,now you have to reserve the good camping spots A YEAR in advance to get the good spots.

Yeah, catching fish sure is awesome but we all still go even if they aren't biting and you still had a great time.
We all know why we fish,why we camp and why we hunt. To be "there" and away from "here",to get always from that noise.

So what are we supposed to do? Accept you won't be having anymore peaceful and quiet days on the lake and on the on the trail? Accept spending that time waiting at the ramps?
Accept having the same amount of fish,same amount of inland water and land for so many more people?

Back to when I talked about all our resivours being created.
WOW,what a massive project that was. Yes,it was mainly for flood control but Ohio was practically devoid of large bodies of inland water before these impoundment were created.


What if we did that again?
Yes,you are immediately thinking about the cost.
What about the cost?
How much do you spend annually on fishing equipment? These fancy new boats,lures and rods ain't cheap. I've seen some of these star wars fish finders you guys have.

Now think about that that cost of land acquisition, dam building and additional stocking programs again.
I couldn't find any information on fishing licences last year, but there was roughly 376,000 hunting licenses purchased in 2019. I imagine fishing would be a much higher number.
What would you be willing to pay to have more room on new lakes and more fish to go around? Think back to those peaceful days you've had on the water that are going to become rarer and rarer.

These lakes dont have to be big 3000 acre impoundments, smaller lakes can be quite satisfying to fish also as I'm sure many know and enjoy different size fisheries in different areas.

So what's the solution? We accept larger crowds,less fish and less peace in the places we use as our refuge from daily,modern life?

What if that option was given to us? To have more land acquisition, more lakes and stocking programs added to the state.
Would you be willing to pay double,triple or even the big $100 for a yearly fishing license?
Yeah, I said it. $100 seems far fetched for sure but I ask again, what is it worth to you to have less people,more fish and new places?

To you guys roughly my age or younger,you gonna wait in line 2 hours at the ramp to put in on a super crowded lake,with barely any fish? That's the future.

What's it worth to you?
 

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I think its great. People have been preaching on this site for years for people to get outside away from the phone and the computer.
Now they are actually doing it, the complaints come. They have just as much right to be out there discovering new things they might end up loving.
 

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I think its great. People have been preaching on this site for years for people to get outside away from the phone and the computer.
Now they are actually doing it, the complaints come. They have just as much right to be out there discovering new things they might end up loving.
Sure they do, I believe I clearly stated that in my OP.
 

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I've had similar thoughts as you Karl but I see the current situation as a temporary dilemma.
Right now people have very few options with ways to entertain them selves. The choices are pretty much limited to being outdoors doing something like hiking, fishing, boating ect.
Once life starts to return to normal and schools, restaurants, sport venues, malls ect. reopen and people get back to work and options for other activities are available I think people will also begin to drift back to their old habits.
As an example just look at the families who would be pulled away if regular high school activities were to begin again without restrictions. Baseball, football, basketball, soccer, tennis, golf, volley ball and on and on. Now add other school activities dances, parties, ect and all of a sudden families get pulled away. Add college and pro sports and you have tail gaiting and game day parties, play off parties. Throw in the restaurants and people searching for any reason to get together. It's a weird time right now, heck people don't even get together for even simple things like birthday parties. Open and remove the capacity & time restrictions for bars, casino's, racetracks, travel restrictions ect, ect. and people will be right back to their old habits.

Eventually I think most the folks who found the outdoors as a new way to spend their time where it's too hot, too cold, too windy, too crowded, you have to get up too early, you get home too late, it takes too long to set up, it take too long to get ready, the drive is too far, everything is wet and has to be dried, it's too much hassle, it's too expensive....and on.
Once life gets back to normal...so will the outdoors.
 

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Karl - Most county park districts are purchasing undeveloped land as fast as the budget allows. Conservation easements are on the rise with abutting land owners to protect lands without actually purchasing the property. Government agencies are working together to better maintain properties that they control. Example; Cleveland Lakefront Parks- State, County, City, Cleveland Metroparks and I'm sure many others working together. It hasn't been that many years ago that the Cuyahoga Valley National Park was created. These agencies value feedback, accept donations and love their volunteers for those that have the time to get involved. Programs take time to develop but they are happening. Crowds should thin out when/if things return to normal.
 

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And just throwing this out there. But my last four fishing trips in very popular areas in columbus. We have not ran into another fisherman.
And I imagine in the next couple years there will be some really nice used boats and kayaks for sale.
Get outside,enjoy it. Life is to short.
And campers too!
 

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As I'm sure all of you are aware, there has been a MASSIVE increase in the amount of people enjoying the natural resources throughout the nation.
With so many businesses and indoor activities being shut down, many folks decided to get that first kayak,get that first boat,buy their first zebco 404 and go enjoy what Ohio has to offer.

In many ways this was great,getting folks out and discovering the natural world,that there is more to earth than cement and neon lights.
But for those that have been out enjoying our limited outdoor resources for many years,its become a nuisance and a hindrance,we feel crowded and dismayed.
Everywhere you go its crowds, waiting, trash.....
Think back 10,20,30,40,50 and even 60 years for some of you fellers. Most of our resivours,if not all were created by then and well into beginning decent fisheries,full of structure and fresh.

Now that you've thought back,you can remember getting out on these lakes and rivers some days and feel like you have it all to yourself, you can hear the birds,not get blown away by continuous wake and boats crowding you if they see you with a fish. Not waiting up to an hour to load and unload your boat.

Welcome to back to 2020. All these new boat and kayak purchases are not going to disappear in 2021. All the people that have learned to enjoy our natural world are not going to just give it up
What's it worth to you?
Pfffft! Yea they will give it up!!
As soon as they all realize that:
1) camping is actually a hell of a lot of work

2) Fish don't bite every time you go

3) All that gear you bought needs to be cleaned and put away every time you get home from using it.

4) Batteries for iPads and cell phones usually die withinin 24 hours of not being charged.
5) that bag of potato chips that you guys left on the picnic table before you went to bed… Will be all over the campsite in the morning

... you just got a remember That there's a reason outdoor enthusiast numbers have declined over the years…
...What we really need to do is get all those families signed up on the OGF marketplace for next year… I will have my wallet ready!
 

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Actually one thing I would love to see is a hell of a lot more hunters this year… I actually miss the days when you could walk down the road in southern Ohio and see nothing but tents and campers lined up on the road with fathers camping and hunting with their kids… And constantly seeing deer run around everywhere because of the amount of people in the woods...I actually do miss that on Public hunting grounds
 
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