Yeah, but what my teacher (dip) didn't mention is that he didn't catch that 8.5 on his crappy ol' bait. He practically begged me to come fish with him cuz I had the fresh bait. That fish took a bait no bigger than the end of your thumb. Wait, I drive all the way there, give up my hurrican weather, bring him the bait, and he catches all the nicer fish, ain't right. I guess I have a lot to learn yet. Even brought the bait tonight and got out fished again. Tomorrow I suppose I'll bring the bait to Indian. I guess I gotta make the has been feel better about himself.
Jack, all of our waters are shallow. They are in a bay, channel area with boat docks. Usually in the end where the wind is blowing into. I have been snagging them on the bottom. Dip gottem the other day in a throw net. Boat docks are good. Funny thing is we can't find them at all at Loramie.