I posted about going to alum creek and trolling for seyes. Well this was my first time and i have questions. Most of the guys that went with us have little or no experience trolling and we didn't have much luck. What depth of water should you troll? I also noticed that my deep diving cranks seemed to never get any deeper than around 10' as they only hit bottom when we were in 8 to 10' of water. I assume i need to buy deeper cranks or get existing ones to go deeper. What speed should you be trolling at? Anything else i should know or is there someone out there who frequents alum or hoover that would be willing to take me along one night for a trainning session.