The Flatwing Shiner is an adaptation of Ken Abrames' saltwater stiper flies. It's been a good one for me on the big water and it produces its share of shad-eating largemouth, too! You're going to love this one! Fly Fish Ohio - the video is free to download, available through iTunes and the site, as always, is commercial free. Hey, we volunteer to do this! Anyway, let me know how this one works for you. I'm really interested in some feedback from Erie anglers who might try this one on the big water for some of those carnivorous browns and salmon. Joe C.