I have been following everyone's posts and benefitting from them for a while now and feel a bit like a heel. So thank you, and I plan to be more active so I can add some information to this great website. I fish all over, particularly out of vermillion/lorain in summer. Thanks shortdrift and others for your posts, also bigdaddy and everyone for Mogadore. See you at Mogadore Sunday and presque Isle soon! Oh, by the way, #12 chartruese shrimpos have outfished live bait for me at Mogadore so far this year!