interesting to hear. How far south have you been successful? Ever try the east branch of RR near strongsville ?If you can go during the week, the Rocky's generally not too crowded. I would suggest all of the popular fords and holes but, this late in the year, the beginning of the East Fork (just south of Cedar Point Rd.) just seems to get overlooked. I can't begin to tell you how many people I've gotten into their first steelie in that area, and always with plenty of elbow room.