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I caught a 17 lber in 21 ft with a tiny Rapala floater on a Carolina rig several yrs ago. A lot of guys used to go after 'em with a bow, but not lately. They fight like Hell too.
 

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Has anyone else seen them this year all over the surface in deep water...What gives?
Maybe they are actually members of the 'sun-fish' family?!:D That's where I find gills in Wingfoot. Actually, I've seen carp in numbers everywhere I've fished this year but Erie-usually in the weeds thrashing around-maybe a mating thing?
 
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