I've noticed that when I'm using bluegill for bait in the scioto or any natural lake/river that if I catch the bluegill from that body of water they work better. Before I have taken pond caught 'gils to the scioto and not caught a thing.....or even had a run. However when I take 'gils from the scioto i get more action. Also, I have never had a run or caught anything on chubs, shiners or suckers. Have you guys had any luck with them?