Ok guys, I am not knocking any of you, I am just curious and confused. What is it with these really long rods?? I mean a 12 ft or longer rod?? what does a rod like this do for you while carping that a 6 or 7 ft rod would not do?? I am wondering. To me, it is overkill. Also what about these fancy rod holders?? what do they do that a simple stick would not do?? Another over kill to me. Or are these holders just for these long rods?? Or are these rods and holders just something that goes along with carping for serious carpers. I mean if I go fish for carp, I just use the same baitcaster or open face I would use for channel cats or for bass. Seems to work just fine. Are these things just like maybe a 6500 Abu is to Catfishing?? Please be nice, I am just curious and know someone can fill me in!