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Preserve hunting for pheasants and quail

Discussion in 'Upland Game and Hunting Dogs' started by Crawl, Aug 19, 2004.

  1. Does anyone know of a good place to go to? We're talking about going this year and would like to know if any of you would reccommend a good place to go. Any info would be appreciated!

    Jason
     
  2. The only place I ever went to is now closed...
    I'll be looking for post here too...
    My friend use to raise birds so we always birds but after taking a new job that was taken away too UGH !!!
     

  3. cherry bend farms outside of willington is nice but can be very expensive
     
  4. JohnBoat

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    We hunted at a place called Muscovy Run Farms last winter, it's up near Kinsman. Sorry but thats all the info I know
     
  5. Both Elkhorn[Bucyrus], elkhornlakehuntclub.com, & Brier Oak [Bellevue] are good places.
     
  6. Procraftboats21

    Procraftboats21 Original OGF Member

    Triple Creek Farms in East Sparta (15 mins from Canton) has half day hunts in September for $15 per bird and half day hunts through October through March its $17 per bird, they also clean the birds free. heres a phone number 1-330-484-3734
     
  7. We also hunted at Muscovy Run near Kinsman. The hunting was good and the prices were very reasonable. The phone number is 330-876-0900.
     
  8. Elk Creek Hunt Club in Owenton,KY first class sporting clays released birds, service and facilitys they have a web page do asearsh for Elk Creek.
     
  9. Why is it that everybody on this site hates pay lakes, but paying to hunt fenced in game is OK. It doesn't bother me one way or the other, I'm just not understanding the difference. Could someone please explain where I'm missing the difference. Thanks
     
  10. by the way, I have pheasant and quail running through my yard all the time. Grouse too.
     

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  11. The HUGE diff is that paylakes take HUGE catfish (flatheads) from local resources using commercial fisherman for the most part and some say even sportfishermen who sell their catch to paylakes which is illegal...
    I fished Medina Fish Hatchery when it was open for stocked trout which were raised not taken from local streams... The catfish that are caught by commercial fishermen then sold to paylakes is taking a resource from public waters for private use ($$ made for profit)...
    Stocked birds are raised not caught from the wild...
    Its pretty simple choice between the two...
    Take a look at the catfish forum here and read all the post about thsi very subject...
     
  12. I see. If the people ate the cats, they would be gone anyhow. So paylakers and people who eat cats are kinda the same. I'm all for any kind of hunting and fishing for the most part, just curious what how other people think.
     
  13. .. its not about
    eating :confused:
     
  14. I was trying not to say anything. I agree about paylakes robbing natural fish, but there are lots of people who would still hate paylakes if they were farm fish. But i hope none of those people are on this subject, because that would be strange.

    Just wondering, Where do the birds come from. I mean originally. Did all of the birds come from a few injured birds taken into captivity? That must be one massive cluster of imbreeding. lolol

    I understand there are not many of those birds around here, but there are not many blues around here either. But if paylakes took a few blues from big populations down south and got fish from fishfarms i would be fine with me. Its just the local flatties that bother me.

    But those birds arnt hurting anything, so if you got the money kill on my friends. Like i say, its like a meat market that you get to kill (or catch) stuff yourself, sounds good to me.
    No need to turn this thread into something it is not.
     
  15. Lundy

    Lundy Staff Member

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    The subject of paylakes has been debated without a clear winner for a very long time.

    The compariosn of a hunting preserve (for birds)and paylakes that offer BIG stocked catfish is an apple to oranges comparison.

    Bird hunting preserves have only pen raised birds for the public to pay to harvest. In Ohio I don't even believe that you need a hunting license to hunt these preserves. I know that they have different and much longer seasons that the state sets on bird hunting and have no bag limits, just pay for what you shoot. The reason is that none of these birds are there at the expense of the of the Ohio public. Unlike wild birds that belong to everybody,this is a private enterprise where the owner absorbs all costs of operation, with no state or federal monies.

    A paylake opperates in much the manner when they stock farm raised catfish or trout for fishing. No fishing license required, no state regulated bag limits. The BIG difference is when a paylake purchases fish (wild fish) that are a public resource and then benifits financially by stocking them in their lakes. The PUBLIC resource is being deminished for the monetary gain of a few. That is what most are against. I really don't think anybody has a problem with a paylake that stocks only farm raised fish, why would try.

    If an individual catches a catfish and chooses to eat it that's his choice. That in no way affects the resource like commercial netting for the paylake industry.

    Hunting preserves for birds use only farm raised birds, no public resources used.

    Paylakes that purchase big cats use all public resources.

    I personally have no ethical issues with shooting a bird on a preserve or catching a farm raised cat in a paylake for my consumption. There begins to be a few more ethical questions for me when hunting game animals in fenced preserves, but that's just me.

    I like rustyfish's position, "It's like a meat market that you get to kill (or catch) stuff yourself" Works for me. I haven't eaten any pheasant in 15+years. I think I might go get a couple this year.

    Kim
     
  16. I couldn't agree more and wish I could have said it as well[​IMG][​IMG]
     
  17. Tallmadge Pheasant Farm on Rt.30 a few miles west of Wooster is a nice place to go.Good hunting,and reasonable rates.Wooster Duck and Pheasant Club just down the road from Tallmadge is also a good choice.
    The main difference to me regarding pay hunting vs pay fishing is I like pheasants,and I don't care for catfish and carp.Also,you can catch good numbers of carp and catfish almost anywhere in Ohio,whereas wild pheasants are becoming increasingly rare.
     
  18. Personally,I don't hunt preserves,I know of Tallmadge,because I bought one of my bird dogs from there.I used to go over there and let their professional dog handlers train her for a fair price.I don't hunt animals,never have,I've always enjoyed bird hunting though.I make a trip out to S.Dakota or Iowa every fall to hunt birds.I have no problem with the ethics of people hunting preserves,as far as pheasants,it's about the only game in town.Pay lakes are another story,I know of one in Morrow County that I've heard pays for flatheads taken out of the wild and then planted in their lake.I also know of one that I won't mention,that actually pays a couple of guys for perch and walleyes caught at Lake Erie and then stocked into their lakes.Other than the fact that these are obviously illegal going-ons,I would much rather go out fishing and catch my own WILD fish.
     
  19. Reason May Be Is There Is No Place There Is To Hunt Pheasants N Quail Anymore...their Just Not There Unless Stocked By The State Somwhere...i May Be Wrong Though...
     
  20. There's still a few wild pheasants out there,but they're scarce.The best pockets of wild birds still seems to be in south-central Ohio.Areas around Washington Court House east towards C-Bus has always held some birds.As for quail,I know that Adams and Brown Counties have decent populations.