Thanks guys, Red that thought had crossed my mind too. When we are out there at night and anything moves or splash's "its the frog man hide yer bait" Some good stories. I have been approached by cops at night before they just snuck up on us, not very well I might add, and checked for license and to see if we had any beer. They were pretty cool though, did not hassel us just checked license and asked how we were doing and then took off. The conoe livery is right across the river from where they were and it is there take out from the trips up stream could have been related to cabrewers I guess. It is private land where they were so I thought they may have be running people off but there was not anyone be held that I could see. S