KAMES has them. It all depends on what lake you want. They are a cheeper map than the Fishing Hot Spots maps. I spend the $8 on the Fishing Hot Spots maps when I can because they are better and more detailed. The good thing about the Permaguide maps is they are around $4 and they have lakes that the better ones don't. I couldn't find Lake Milton, Nimisila, or Portage Lakes in the better maps, but Permaguide makes them so I got them.