Well I got mine last night..He's no popeand young deer but he'll do. He came in at 6:45 last night,I had him broadside at 12yds when I took the shot,I must have hit a twig on the way to him cause i was aiming behind his front shoulder and hit him in the hams. The out come was a 60yd blood trail that looked like it had been laid out with a bucket. I guess those Magnus Stingers did the job ,A complete pass thru both hams. Recovery was easy since he died in a powerline easment.