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New Petition !!! Wake Up Call For Ohio Catfishermen!

Discussion in 'Catfish Discussion' started by mrfishohio, Jul 27, 2004.

  1. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    This is pretty much what we are going to circulate and ask for concerned sportsmen to make copies of & circulate to bait shps & tackle stores. There will also be a signup sheet, please print up enough for about 200 signatures. These will all be collected & counted later. An article is in the works which will be circulated (soon) to all the fishing magazines & websites. Make you voices heard. :)


    WAKE UP CALL FOR OHIO CATFISHERMEN!

    It is time for Catfishermen who enjoy our sport to wake up
    to what is happening to our resources. The following is a
    post from the Brotherhood of Catfishermens' board and should
    serve as a wake up call for all of us!
    FLATHEADS USED FOR BEER MONEY!
    July 19 2004: Guys, what I saw today make me sick and really
    mad...I went down to one of my favorite flathead spots on the
    Scioto River here in Ohio..I met up with a group of guys who
    had the ground covered in beer cans. They were complaining
    that they had caught no flatheads as of late...I asked them if they
    had caught any at all this year and was told they had caught
    quite a few and sold them to paylakes! Which is illegal in Ohio.
    One of them said he hoped they would start hitting again soon
    because they were running out of beer money. In 1985 my logs
    show I caught and released 23 cats over 20 lbs in June of that
    year alone, now I am lucky to catch 4-5 per year!

    Our resources are being exploited for private profit, it is time
    to gets some regulations in place calling for INTELLEGENT
    HARVEST and regulating pay lakes to make sure they are
    following the letter of the law.

    1) Follow the example set by Tennessee and establish a slot
    limit which will protect all catfish caught over 34 inches setting
    a bag limit of 1 per day.
    2) Establish regulations that require Pay Lakes notify ODNR
    and stock under ODNR supervision, and require that the Pay
    Lake owners have paperwork showing these fish were obtained
    in a legal manner.
    3) Request the State of Ohio work with KY, IN, and WVA and try
    to establish slot limits on the Ohio River which Mirror those of
    the state of Tennessee. Requiring release of any catfish over 34
    inches caught on a commercial liscense, and setting a 1 fish per
    day bag limit on catfish ove 34 inches caught under sports
    fishing liscensing.
     
  2. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    We the Undersigned would like the state of Ohio to establish
    regulations protecting Catfish resources:
    1) Set Slot/Bag limits on all catfish over 34 inches, limiting
    possession to 1 per day on all licenses.
    2) Regulate Pay Lake stocking, requiring them to be stocked under
    ODNR supervision, and requiring owners of Pay Lakes to have valid
    proof fish stocked were taken by legal means.
    3) Work with the all states sharing Ohio Boundry waters to establish
    Regulations mirroring those established by the state of Tennessee:
    a) Commercially licensed fishermen required to immediately release
    all catfish caught over 34 inchs.
    b) Restricting all sports fishing licensed fishermen to a bag limit
    of 1 fish per day on all Catfish over 34 inches.

    Name (Print) City State Signature Date
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  3. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    We the Undersigned would like the state of Kentucky to establish regulations protecting Catfish resources:
    1) Set slot limits mirroring those established the state of Tennessee:
    a) requiring all catfish over 34 inches caught on commercially
    issued licenses be released, alive, immediately.
    b) establish a bag limit of 1 (one) fish per day on all catfish over 34
    inches per day caught on sports fishing licenses.
    2) Establish regulations preventing the on-going exploitation of our
    Trophy Catfish by out of state pay lake owners using commercial licenses purchased through the state of Kentucky.

    Name (Print) City State Signature Date
    _____________ __________ _____ __________ __/__/___
    _____________ __________ _____ __________ __/__/___
    In order to save web space, I'm not putting up all the lines for signatures, you can just add a sheet of legal pad, etc.
     
  4. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    A big
    Thank You for your support !
     
  5. Dont take this the wrong way but will these petitions ever make a difference? I support what you are trying to do 100% and have signed every one of your online petitions for catfish regs but nothing has changed. Does the DNR not care what the general public thinks? Or does the opions on these petitions not reflect the general public and maybe its just a small number of catfisherman that want the regs so it will never happen so as to keep the majority of the catfisherman happy??:confused:
     
  6. Fishyguy

    Fishyguy Crazy Catman

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    Twistertail, dont take this the wrong, but the only way to make a difference is in numbers. The more people who voice their opinion the better. I hear what you are saying, but its when a stink is raised that the people who can make these changes get to work. I do hear what you are saying though. I tried earlier in the year to get support from members on here to help me try to get the Cincinnati Rec. Commision to drop the launch fee's at the ramps in this area to the Ohio River. I couldn't get the support. The rec. commision said if I had proof that others didnt like the 10 fee's they would look into lowering it. I couldnt get one person to e-mail them their thoughts, so the rec com. basically laughed in my face. The thing that we have in our favor with the catfish petition is that other places have changed their rules and things are now better off, all we need now is some dedicated people out there to speak up and be heard. The more involved the better. I will help in any way possible. The catfishing has gotten alittle worse on the river year by year. Go to other rivers around the U.S. and catching a 40+ pounder is pretty much a regularity given you know where to fish. Catch a 40 pounder in the Ohio River is a trophy for the year. I have fished the river for I think 4 years now, and I go out alot. I have not caught a 40 pounder yet, I am sure I have hooked a couple, but lost them, I have caught several in the 30's. Fishing in Ohio period is not up to par in my opinion. Let's save those big cats!!!
     
  7. As someone who got involved in this effort as a result of seeing a petition
    on-line I think they definitly do some good. The main thing is continuing to
    try to learn from every effort made, because it seems that every petition
    has a response from some official or the other shifting blame away from
    something they are responsible for.
    The petitions that are being posted now will start off by going with as
    many volunteers as can be found into local bait shops and everywhere else
    fishermen care to take them an try to get them signed. It will be a multi-state
    effort.
    The Editorial/Article being worked on is a result of several months of writing
    e-mails to various officials an hearing how they can't help because, or they
    don't need to listen because.
    Little things like pointing out the Ohio river is considered by Biologists an
    fishermen to be one of the 3 top trophy producing rivers in the country from
    a catfishing standpoint. An then pointing out that the Dept of Fisheries officials we contacted up in Manitoba show that the Red River Channel cat
    fishery brings in 10-12 million per season in liscenes, lodging, tackle, and
    that while there is no direct total known on jobs it creates for local
    communities, the fact that tourism is a seriously labor intensive service
    industry makes the same officials believe that from a jobs standpoing the
    Trophy fishing has a very significant impact in that area as well. Just an
    example of a few things that can be added to get peoples attention.
    Fighting "city halls" is pretty complicated.
    SO IMO every petition, every article, every post with information we can
    get is a great tool for learning and changing tactics and figuring out the best
    ways to accomplish what is needed.
    Thanks
     
  8. I guess "we" would be anyone that has input into this issue, it certianly would
    not be limited to people that have to agree with everything anyone said
    pro or con, the only way that things get done is if all inputs from fishermen are listened to and some kind of intellegent set of regs is worked out that
    will insure that everyone who wants to go hunting a trophy catfish will have
    fish available in public waterways to do so.
     
  9. flathunter

    flathunter Mellons mentor

    I just sent copy's of this to the odnr, the editor of my local newspaper, and state represenative
     
  10. To me it looks like 1000's of people (we) shooting off in diff directions with no order of assembly to ensure the voice of many over shadows the voice of one...
     
  11. So you want me to print off a few of these sheets and take to some local bait shops to see if people will sign it? Who would I send it to when its filled out? I'm central Ohio so not many people fish the Ohio river so many people in my area may not think there is a problem. I have never fished the Ohio and really dont even fish for cats but if you think this will help I'll give it a shot. Let me know what I should do.
     
  12. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    Okay, it's maybe a little unorganized, but within a few days or a week, there will be an article sent everywhere. As news of catfish being netted from public waterways for profit emerges, people will take notice.
    The we is us...... all of us who are concerned. It's not thousands running off in several directions. A gentleman contacted me several months ago thru Jack asking me a few questions as he was aware I was involved with some of this last year. Last year it got bogged down as there was alot of input and it more/less died on getting "non-profit" status for an organization. That takes time & money & there was no resources to support it I guess. I don't know what happened, other than it never came to fruition. It sort of fizzled out. Clyde made up a great prototype website & there was also a petition generated on the web site. The former petition, while gaining some attention, had no "teeth" as it's legal for paylakes to purchase catfish from any commercially licensed fisherman. So when it was brought to the attention of the state, that was basically their reponse.

    There is and remains a need to protect catfish, whether in Ohio or our boundary waters.
    This proposed regulation addresses it. There is no commecial fishing in Ohio other that the Lake Erie district(mostly carp & walleyes?). So there is no need to regulate the Ohio Commecial anglers. However, anyone today with a resident or non- resident license is not restricted from taking all the catfish of anysize from most public waterways, with only a new restriction on lakes under 600 acres recently.
    Some still feel it unfair they can't keep all of them. Bass & walleyes/saugers/saugeyes are protected in Ohio. They have a size & creel limit. As it presently stands, one can use trot lines, jug lines, rod & reel and limb lines and theoretically harvest well over 100 catfish in a day. It would be legal under today's law. How soon could some of the (Ohio ) lakes(not the Ohio River) producing trophy catfish..we've all seen the pictures...be destroyed by the use of trotlines and overharvesting. As it stands, someone could set out the lines, or just have a great day fishing and catch several flatheads over 30-50# and keep everyone of them. I was recently told of someone keeping 4 (flatheads) over 30-40# from a spot, lopping off their heads & putting them in a burlap bag. Maybe to eat, maybe for fertilizer, I don't know, but with regulations in place, they could only keep one of them.
    Let's not wait until the extinction of the species, where all we have are memories and pictures of an opportunity lost.

    This is still in it's beginning , so mistakes will be made, but let's not toss out the baby with the bath water.
    Regulations similar to Tennessee's and also Canada enacted regulations on the Red River making it a trophy catfish destination worth 10's of millions of dollars to their economy.
    Potencially the Ohio River could become a destination spot similar to that, or the Cumberland River in TN or like Lake Erie is for walleye.
    It takes the forsight of several people with the support of concerned sportsmen to make it happen.

    Commercial anlers will still be able to use hoop nets & gill nets in the Ohio River, but they won't be able to keep any catfish over 34"...if KY supports the proposal.
    First thing is to get it passed in Ohio , and with enough support from Ky , IN and WV maybe some regulation on the Ohio River.
    We can make a difference. :)
     
  13. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    Twistertail, it's not going to affect anything in the Ohio River as proposed here. The Ohio River has it's own separate set of regulations. This petition is to get some regulations on Ohio's catfish. Hopefully KY will adopt a similar probram and there is a KY petition also. It may be attached to the article and/or a link to it.
    There will be an address to return the petitions to.
     
  14. Where is the Ky petition located?
     
  15. BTW...
    I spent many hrs last year on this when I became involved only to see it all wasted and for naught... I DO NOT want that to hap'n again is what I am saying...
    I then turned my attention to carp and carp fishing because they seemed so much more organized, which is in this world how you get things done.
    I have seen it come to fruit when I was involved in politics. Those who organize and do it well succeed where others do not...
    Only the future will tell us what hap'ns now...
     
  16. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    I know what you're saying Clyde, we're on the same page. ;)
     
  17. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    WAKE UP CALL FOR KENTUCKY CATFISHERMEN!

    It is time for Catfishermen who enjoy our sport to wake up
    to what is happening to our resources. The following is a
    post from the Brotherhood of Catfishermens' board and should
    serve as a wake up call for all of us!
    FLATHEADS USED FOR BEER MONEY!
    July 19 2004: Guys, what I saw today make me sick and really
    mad...I went down to one of my favorite flathead spots on the
    Scioto River here in Ohio..I met up with a group of guys who
    had the ground covered in beer cans. They were complaining
    that they had caught no flatheads as of late...I asked them if they
    had caught any at all this year and was told they had caught
    quite a few and sold them to paylakes! Which is illegal in Ohio.
    One of them said he hoped they would start hitting again soon
    because they were running out of beer money. In 1985 my logs
    show I caught and released 23 cats over 20 lbs in June of that
    year alone, now I am lucky to catch 4-5 per year! Sportsmen
    need to advocate for INTELLEGENT HARVEST!

    Our resources are being exploited for private profit, it is time
    to gets some regulations in place calling for INTELLEGENT
    HARVEST and regulating pay lakes to make sure they are
    following the letter of the law.

    1) Follow the example set by Tennessee and establish a slot
    limit which will protect all catfish caught over 34 inches setting
    a bag limit of 1 per day on Sports fishing liscenses, and banning
    commercial fishermen from taking any catfish over 34 inchs.
    2) The state of Ohio bans commercial netting, yet a great many
    trophy catfish are being taken from waters under Kentucky
    jurisdiction by Ohio Pay Lake owners who get non-resident
    Ky commercial liscenses then net and transport TONS of trophy
    cats to Pay Lakes in Ohio. We would like to see the state of
    Kentucky establish regulations protecting our resources from
    this type of exploitation. This information was provided by the
    State of Ohio who investigated stocking of catfish at a Pay lake
    in Washington County which advertises stocking over 11,000 lbs
    of Trophy catfish per month!

    SIGN UP AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD:
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     
  18. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    We the Undersigned would like the state of Kentucky to establish regulations protecting Catfish resources:
    1) Set slot limits mirroring those established the state of Tennessee:
    a) requiring all catfish over 34 inches caught on commercially
    issued licenses be released, alive, immediately.
    b) establish a bag limit of 1 (one) fish per day on all catfish over 34
    inches per day caught on sports fishing licenses.
    2) Establish regulations preventing the on-going exploitation of our
    Trophy Catfish by out of state pay lake owners using commercial licenses purchased through the state of Kentucky.

    Name (Print) City State Signature Date
    _____________ __________ _____ __________ __/__/___
    _____________ __________ _____ __________ __/__/___
    _____________ __________ _____ __________ __/__/___
    __________

    I just noticed i already posted this below the Ohio petiton nin case you missed it. I did a little spelling corrections too. It's really just a draft, but I wanted everyone to be aware of it. Looks pretty good to me.
     
  19. I need to see the Tenn regs we're talking about for something I am working on for this project...
    ANYONE?
     
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