This is my first official summer fishing so I undertand this isn't huge by any means, but for me, this was my first true fat piggy of a LM. He is about 19inches and I would guess he weighs around 3 1/2 lbs. I think 4 would be streching it. Of course the photo never does it justice. That's one thing that sucks when fishing by yourself and having to use a camera phone. At least this guy cooperated. I'll spare the story, but it was as exciting of a catch as I have had all year because he had taken the worm a full 15ft away from where I casted it before I realized what was going on! Awesome.