I have an umbrella net from gander and was wondering if anyone has any tips on how to use it. went down to the eastlake wall and did "ok" but there was so many minnows I think I should have been able to fill a five gal pal in about 10 dips (I didnt). the way I was trying it was to toss it out any pull it in thru the minnows fast to try to keep them in the net, right before went left an older gentleman came along with one and he tossed his in and was bringing it in real slow. also, has anyone used one of those cast nets? are they pretty hard to learn? seems the design behind them would work alot easier.