Getting excited about grouse season. Always hunt SE ohio some and make 2 trips to Michigan Every year. Mostly hunt around Gladwin. Went to eastern UP last year. We didn't find any more birds there, but they did hold better(less pressured). They say the western UP is better, but I've never been there. I've probably averaged about 2 flushes/hr the last couple years and their cycle is on the upswing. much, much better than ohio where I probably get 1 flush every 3-4 hrs. gladwin area got record flooding in late June, I'm concerned that it was rough on all the young chicks. Am considering going back to UP or exploring the NW lower Penn. I plan to go October 13-16 and back again at the end of October. I would be interested in trading general info with others who grouse hunt Michigan.