I use ALOT of creek chubs and horny head chubs. These are my premier river bait. Everything eats them cut or live. Just last night we caught 4 pike, 9 bowfins, 1 bullhead, 7 channel cats with 3 of them being real nice ones, and a 7 inch warmouth that choked down a 4 inch piece of cut chub! During the last few days they want the chubs fresh cut, but before that they wanted the chubs big and lively and would not indulge on the cut bait. Make sure to change up if youre not catching catfish! I agree that the chubs are soft and hard to cast well when hooked through the back but in close quarters I hook them through the back. I am blessed to have so many creeks nearby to catch big 3 - 11" chubs. If you have anymore questions feel free to ask!