I can't recall who told me about killdeer but TY for the info. we did go there. we all caught at least 1 cat fish each. now mind you they were tiny lol but we had fun. we saw some snakes too. Only issue I had was when we drove to the one area and got out to look at the water there was a John there with his "female friend". we decided not the best thing to subject our children too. Can't rule out the fact they acted like they had been taking or smoking something as well. It's so secluded out there. I wonder how much of that goes on. and not just there but other places too. One thing that drove me nuts was all the soy been and corn feilds lol. and it was all flat and windy. glad I live in southern ohio. One other fisherman had caught a couple carps. We saw two fisherman and that was it. Like I said very secluded.