...and you don't get any discounts, send me a PM. I work at Ford and we have a friends plan we can use. The GM guys can get them too. I'm sure the Chrysler guys have them as well. It only benefits us all. I saw an article once that described the benefits, financially, for buying a domestic auto over a foreign one. Even the foreign cars that are made generate very little income over the term of the loan back to this country. I believe on a $20k car (domestic) the amount of financial benefits over the course of a 60 month loan (taxes, wages, insurance, etc.) it can generate roughly ten times that amount back into the ecomomy. Whereas a foreign auto generates about 1/10 the amount because most of the money goes back to the parent company. I know firsthand the issues domestic cars face from consumer groups and individuals as far as quality is concerned. Domestic car makers are required to report every repair for quality reporting whereas foreign auto makers are only required to report major repairs. That makes their quality look better than it is. (Gotta love those foreign trade policies and incentives.) Don't get me wrong, foreign autos are quality, but the big three's quality has never been better and we strive for nothing less than 100% quality. Any opinions and knowledge on this subject would certainly be welcome as I tend to be a bit bias on this subject. What do you think?