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I now hate spiders!!!

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by truck, Jul 24, 2005.

  1. Just got out of the hospital yesterday after being there almost a week :mad: Don't know what kind it was,noticed a bite on the back of my leg Sat night after being at our land sat morning.It kept getting worse till Tues morning had to go to ER.They gave me a shot & meds to take sent me home that was 4am.Only made it at work till 3pm and it was back to the ER.My temp hit 103 & blood press was low?They started to draw blood for test but it would not come out,too thick.They had to get a REAL big needle just to get enuogh for tests.They still don't know what kind it was but My white blood count was 4 times normal!!!After 4 days of 2 diff kinds of antibotics things were good enough to send me home.Still not out of the woods yet,2 more weeks of antis(one of these is $1000.00 a week)Glad I have Ins :) Anyway I am just glad to be back home & from now on no spiders are safe around me ;) I have never killed them before but now all bets are off. Daryl
     
  2. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    Wow.....glad you're okay. I know it wasn't an itsy bitsy spider on the water spout...I already killed that one.
    Someone posted some pictures one from a brown recluse bite, showed it swelling up to where the skin cracked open & you could see his bones. I had no idea anything like that could happen.
     

  3. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    Brown Recluse bite series__Day 3
     

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    Brown Recluse bite series__Day 9
    Hope you're not eating :rolleyes:
     

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  9. flathunter

    flathunter Mellons mentor

    sorry to hear about that truck, man those bites are bad news.
     
  10. ParmaBass

    ParmaBass Kiss The Converse

    Now I need to do a search for the Brown Recluse Spider so I know what spiders to stay away from. That is unbelievable.
     
  11. Boilie

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    mrfishohio,

    while you are always posting good stuff, this is getting out of control and starting to look like one of those manequin things that medical school students study. j/k BY ALL MEANS let's see more pics.

    boilie (hopefully "so long" will make it back up in some reincarnation, I can see where it could go down for some "friendly editing", but I think the overall message was very positive)

    Daryl - hope everything goes smoothly in the next couple weeks (and beyond).
     
  12. Whaler

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    Where is the property located where you got bitten? What part of the State?
     
  13. That's disgusting.......why would someone let it get that bad???
     
  14. Basskisser1

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    I hope you will be healed in no time soon. A friend of a friend was bitten by a brown recluse and she was in the hospital for over four months in a coma....she was bitten on the bum and they had to go in and remove part of her bum. The spider bite killed her muscle and skin tissue. She is better now, but it was a horrible incident. They say the brown recluse are NOT in Ohio, but I don't believe it. The woman I was talking about lives in Grove City. A few things about the brown recluse: they like to hide in the toes of shoes, cardboard boxes, in folded bedding in a closet, in clothes that have been hanging in a closet for a while. They also have a violin shape on their backs.
    When they bite you, you will start to have symptoms within a couple of hours. I have a terrible fear of spiders. I have nightmares about them. I have been known to throw myself and my husband out of bed in the middle of the night, thinking there was a huge spider in my bed. I wake myself and hubby up in the middle of the night tearing the bed apart looking for the wolf spider. I live in the county and we have HUGE wolf spiders.
    I am really creeped out now that I have seen the pictures in this thread. I did some research on the web months ago about the recluse and the pictures are very disturbing.

    Hope you get back on your feet soon.
     
  15. mrfishohio

    mrfishohio Recovering Fishaholic

    Until I saw those series of pictures I had no idea a spider could be so dangerous.
     
  16. Jim... gezzzzzzzzz man those pics are nuts!!!
    I was going to have ribs tonight!!!
    A budy was bit back in Pa a few years ago and he also was out of commision for a week... hmnmnmn spiders...
     
  17. streamstalker

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    I think this is more common than most of us realize. I processed surgery bills at a major Central Ohio hospital for several years. I often read the procedure and diagnosis on the more gruesome ones, and I ran across at least a dozen where doctors had to surgically remove dead tissue and the diagnosis was "spider bite."

    I always bang out a pair of shoes that have been in the closet for awhile.

    I'm sorry to see that you are going through that.
     
  18. Ohio State University Fact Sheet

    Entomology

    1991 Kenny Road, Columbus, Ohio 43210

    [​IMG]not actual sizeCommon Name
    brown recluse spiderScientific Name
    Loxosceles reclusa
    Brown Recluse Spider

    HYG-2061-04

    Susan C. Jones, Ph.D.
    Assistant Professor of Entomology
    Extension Specialist, Household & Structural Pests

    The brown recluse spider is uncommon in Ohio. Nonetheless, OSU Extension receives numerous spider specimens that homeowners mistakenly suspect to be the brown recluse. Media attention and public fear contribute to these misdiagnoses.

    The brown recluse belongs to a group of spiders that is officially known as the "recluse spiders" in the genus Loxosceles (pronounced lox-sos-a-leez). These spiders are also commonly referred to as "fiddleback" spiders or "violin" spiders because of the violin-shaped marking on the top surface of the cephalothorax (fused head and thorax). However, this feature can be very faint depending on the species of recluse spider, particularly those in the southwestern U.S., or how recently the spider has molted.

    The common name, brown recluse spider, pertains to only one species, Loxosceles reclusa. The name refers to its color and habits. It is a reclusive creature that seeks and prefers seclusion.

    Distribution

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    The brown recluse spider and ten additional species of Loxosceles are native to the United States. In addition, a few non-native species have become established in limited areas of the country. The brown recluse spider is found mainly in the central Midwestern states southward to the Gulf of Mexico (see map). Isolated cases in Ohio are likely attributable to this spider occasionally being transported in materials from other states. Although uncommon, there are more confirmed reports of Loxosceles rufescens (Mediterranean recluse) than the brown recluse in Ohio. It, too, is a human-associated species with similar habits and probably similar venom risks (unverified).

    Identification

    [​IMG]not actual sizeRecluse spiders have six eyes that are arranged in pairs.
    In the mature brown recluse spider as well as some other species of recluse spiders, the dark violin marking is well defined, with the neck of the violin pointing toward the bulbous abdomen. The abdomen is uniformly colored, although the coloration can range from light tan to dark brown, and is covered with numerous fine hairs that provide a velvety appearance. The long, thin, brown legs also are covered with fine hairs, but not spines. Adult brown recluse spiders have a leg span about the size of a quarter. Their body is about 3/8 inches long and about 3/16 inches wide. Males are slightly smaller in body length than females, but males have proportionally longer legs. Both sexes are venomous. The immature stages closely resemble the adults except for size and a slightly lighter color. Whereas most spiders have eight eyes, recluse spiders have six eyes that are arranged in pairs in a semicircle on the forepart of the cephalothorax (see close-up view). A 10X hand lens or microscope is needed to see this diagnostic feature. In order to determine the exact species of Loxosceles, the spider's genitalia need to be examined under a high-power microscope. This requires the skills of a spider expert.

    Life Cycle and Habits

    Egg laying primarily occurs from May through July. The female lays about 50 eggs that are encased in an off-white silken sac that is about 2/3-inch diameter. Each female may produce several egg sacs over a period of several months. Spiderlings emerge from the egg sac in about a month or less. Their development is slow and is influenced by weather conditions and food availability. It takes an average of one year to reach the adult stage from time of egg deposit. Adult brown recluse spiders often live about one to two years. They can survive long periods of time (about 6 months) without food or water.

    The brown recluse spider spins a loose, irregular web of very sticky, off-white to grayish threads. This web serves as the spider's daytime retreat, and it often is constructed in an undisturbed corner. This spider roams at night searching for insect prey. Recent research at the University of Kansas indicates that the brown recluse spider is largely a scavenger, preferring dead insects. Mature males also roam in search of females.

    Brown recluse spiders generally occupy dark, undisturbed sites, and they can occur indoors or outdoors. In favorable habitats, their populations are usually dense. They thrive in human-altered environments. Indoors, they may be found in attics, basements, crawl spaces, cellars, closets, and ductwork or registers. They may seek shelter in storage boxes, shoes, clothing, folded linens, and behind furniture. They also may be found in outbuildings such as barns, storage sheds, and garages. Outdoors, brown recluse spiders may be found underneath logs, loose stones in rock piles, and stacks of lumber.

    The brown recluse spider is not aggressive, and it normally bites only when crushed, handled or disturbed. Some people have been bitten in bed after inadvertently rolling over onto the spider. Others have been bitten after accidentally touching the spider when cleaning storage areas. Some bites occur when people put on seldom used clothing or shoes inhabited by a brown recluse.

    Bite Symptoms

    The physical reaction to a brown recluse spider bite depends on the amount of venom injected and an individual's sensitivity to it. Some people are unaffected by a bite, whereas others experience immediate or delayed effects as the venom kills the tissues (necrosis) at the site of the bite. Many brown recluse bites cause just a little red mark that heals without event. The vast majority of brown recluse bites heal without severe scarring (http://spiders.ucr.edu/avoidbites.html).

    Initially, the bite may feel like a pinprick or go unnoticed. Some may not be aware of the bite for 2 to 8 hours. Others feel a stinging sensation followed by intense pain. Infrequently, some victims experience general systemic reactions that may include restlessness, generalized itching, fever, chills, nausea, vomiting, or shock. A small white blister usually initially rises at the bite site surrounded by a swollen area. The affected area enlarges and becomes red, and the tissue is hard to the touch for some time. The lesion from a brown recluse spider bite is a dry, blue-gray or blue-white, irregular sinking patch with ragged edges and surrounding redness--termed the "red, white, and blue sign." The lesion usually is 1½ inches by 2¾ inches or smaller. Characteristics of a bite are further discussed at http://www.amednews.com/free/hlsa0805.

    The bite of the brown recluse spider can result in a painful, deep wound that takes a long time to heal. Fatalities are extremely rare, but bites are most dangerous to young children, the elderly, and those in poor physical condition. When there is a severe reaction to the bite, the site can erupt into a "volcano lesion" (a hole in the flesh due to damaged, gangrenous tissue). The open wound may range from the size of an adult's thumbnail to the span of a hand. The dead tissue gradually sloughs away, exposing underlying tissues. The sunken, ulcerating sore may heal slowly up to 6 to 8 weeks. Full recovery may take several months and scarring may remain.

    It is difficult for a physician to accurately diagnose a "brown recluse bite" based simply on wound characteristics. It is absolutely necessary to have the spider for a positive identification. Necrotic wounds can result from a variety of agents such as bacteria (Staphylococcus, "flesh-eating" Streptococcus, etc.), viruses, fungi, and arthropods (non-recluse spiders, centipedes, mites, ticks, wasps, bedbugs, kissing bugs, biting flies, etc.). Necrotic conditions also can be caused by vascular and lymphatic disorders, drug reactions, underlying diseases states, and a variety of other agents. An annotated list of conditions that could be mistaken for a brown recluse spider bite is available at http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2002/08/05/hlsa0805.htm. Misdiagnosis of lesions as brown recluse bites can delay appropriate care.

    First Aid

    If bitten, remain calm, and immediately seek medical attention (contact your physician, hospital and/or poison control center). Apply an ice pack directly to the bite area to relieve swelling and pain. Collect the spider (even a mangled specimen has diagnostic value), if possible, for positive identification by a spider expert. A plastic bag, small jar, or pill vial is useful and no preservative is necessary, but rubbing alcohol helps to preserve the spider.

    An effective commercial antivenin is not available. The surgical removal of tissue was once standard procedure, but now this is thought to slow down wound healing. Some physicians administer high doses of cortisone-type hormones to combat hemolysis and other systemic complications. Treatment with oral dapsone (an antibiotic used mainly for leprosy) has been suggested to reduce the degree of tissue damage. However, an effective therapy has not yet been found in controlled studies.

    Control

    Control of indoor infestations of the brown recluse spider can take a long time (6 months or more) and can be difficult because humans have a very low tolerance for this pest, it tends to be widely dispersed within infested buildings, and it seeks secluded sites. Control of spiders, including the brown recluse, is best achieved by following an integrated pest management (IPM) approach. IPM involves using multiple approaches such as preventive measures, exclusion, sanitation, trapping, and chemical treatment when necessary.

    Preventing spider bites

    • Shake out clothing and shoes before getting dressed.
    • Inspect bedding and towels before use.
    • Wear gloves when handling firewood, lumber, and rocks (be sure to inspect the gloves for spiders before putting them on).
    • Remove bedskirts and storage boxes from underneath beds. Move the bed away from the wall.
    • Exercise care when handling cardboard boxes (recluse spiders often are found in the space under folded cardboard flaps).
    Exclusion

    • Install tight-fitting screens on windows and doors; also install door sweeps.
    • Seal or caulk cracks and crevices where spiders can enter the house.
    • Install yellow or sodium vapor light bulbs outdoors since these attract fewer insects for spiders to feed upon.
    • Tape the edges of cardboard boxes to prevent spider entry.
    • Use plastic bags (sealed) to store loose items in the garage, basement, and attic.
    Sanitation

    • Remove trash, old boxes, old clothing, wood piles, rock piles, and other unwanted items.
    • Eliminate clutter in closets, basements, attics, garages, and outbuildings.
    • Do not stack wood against the house.
    • Clean up dead insects that the brown recluse spider can feed on.
    Non-chemical control

    • Use sticky traps or glueboards to capture spiders.
    • Dust and vacuum thoroughly to remove spiders, webs, and egg sacs (dispose of the vacuum bag in a container outdoors).
    • Use a rolled up newspaper or fly swatter to kill individual spiders.
    Insecticides

    There are many labeled pesticides for spider control. Some are labeled for homeowner use, while others are labeled only for the licensed, certified pesticide applicator. It would be prudent to enlist the services of a professional pest management company when dealing with an indoor infestation of the brown recluse spider.

    Research indicates that recently developed pyrethroids (e.g., cyfluthrin, cypermethrin, etc.) are particularly effective against brown recluse spiders. Wettable powders and microencapsuled "slow-release" formulations of these chemicals provide residual activity and are preferable to using emulsion-type sprays. Insecticide treatments should be applied so that the chemical contacts as many spiders and webs as possible. Residual liquid sprays should be applied to the outside perimeter of the home (including under eaves, patios, and decks; behind window shutters), baseboards, undisturbed corners, and other suspected spider harborages. Residual dusts should be applied to voids and inaccessible areas where spiders may hide. Aerosol flushing agents such as pyrethrins, though ineffective by themselves in providing control, can cause spiders to move about so that they contact treated surfaces.



    Click here for PDF version of this Fact Sheet.
    Any opinions, findings, conclusions, or recommendations expressed in this publication are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the view of the U.S. Department of Agriculture

    All educational programs conducted by Ohio State University Extension are available to clientele on a nondiscriminatory basis without regard to race, color, creed, religion, sexual orientation, national origin, gender, age, disability or Vietnam-era veteran status.

    Keith L. Smith, Associate Vice President for Ag. Adm. and Director, OSU Extension.

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  19. Cat Mazter

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    I kill all Spiders No Matter what, I hate them & them dont like me either. Those pics were cool to see what happens But they sure did look painful.Thanks for the Info guys.
    Cat Mazter
     
  20. I got bit on the face by a spider during my freshman year of college. Man did that suck, the left side of my head swelled up like a pumpkin. Sounds like you got it even worse than I did truck. Hope you feel better soon.

    Steve
     
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