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For those wanting to see a BIG carp...

Discussion in 'Carp Discussions' started by RiverRat, Feb 25, 2005.

  1. RiverRat

    RiverRat Banned

    This is the reason some of us have taken up carp fishing, the chance at a large fish is there.

    Current listed world record 82 lber 3 oz. carp caught by Christian Badermair in Lake Raduta, Romainia .

    USA lists 74lb common carp from Pelahatchie l, Mississippi as our record.
    Also ..."Michigan lists a 61lb 8ozer as their record, but it was a speared fish! However, a 61lb 1ozer was caught by a walleye guy from the St Lawrence r. just in from Lake Ontario. Not a record cause the guy didnt want a carp record... "
    To think that carp are NOT a native species to North America but we can grow them to 80+ lbs...AWSOME!

    Heres a bit of history..thanks to Alan Kowaleski:

    Means of Introduction: There is some question as to when and where common carp were first introduced into the United States. DeKay (1842) reported that the species was first brought into the United States from France by Henry Robinson of Orange County, New York in 1831 and 1832. In a letter to DeKay, Robinson detailed that he kept the fish in ponds and for several years released one to two dozen carp during the spring in the Hudson River near his residence, thereby creating a commercial fishery for the species. S. F. Baird of the U.S. Fish Commission examined fish taken from the Hudson River, as well as area fish then being sold on the New York markets, and reported that they were goldfish or goldfish hybrids and not true common carp (Redding 1884; Cole 1905). Whitworth (1996) cited early literature indicating common carp had been introduced into Connecticut as early as the 1840s; however, we question the positive identity of the species. Smith (1896) reported that common carp first appeared in the United States in 1872 when J. A. Poppe of Sonoma, California, imported five specimens from Germany and propagated them in private ponds for commercial purposes, mainly distributing them to applicants as a food fish (Smith 1896; Lampman 1946). In 1877, the U.S. Fish Commission imported common carp from Germany and for the next two decades the agency began stocking and distributing the species as food fish throughout much of the United States and its territories (Smiley 1886; Smith 1896; Cole 1905). State fish commissions also were commonly involved in distributing the species (e.g., Johnson and Becker 1980). Records from the early 1880s indicate that common carp stocked in farm ponds frequently escaped into open waters as a result of dam breaks or flood events (Smiley 1886). By 1885, the U.S. Fish Commission was actively stocking lakes and rivers throughout the country, often the fish were released from railroad tank cars at bridge crossing directly into streams (e.g., McDonald 1887). As a result of subsequent population growth and dispersal, common carp spread even further. More recently introductions of common carp have resulted because of the use of juvenile carp as bait fish (e.g., Swift et al. 1977). Various unusual genetic strains of common carp have been introduced into open waters the United States. In addition to the normal scaled carp, the U.S. Fish Commission distributed both mirror carp and leather carp varieties in the late 1800s (Smiley 1886; Cole 1905). Colorful varieties of common carp (i.e., nishikigoi or koi) are kept as pets in garden ponds and some have been introduced to ponds and public water bodies (Balon 1995). However, only a small percentage of common carp records in U.S. open waters are based on koi. Another cultured variety occasionally found in open waters is the Israeli carp (Robison and Buchanan 1988).

    Status: Recorded from all states except Alaska; believed to be established in all states listed above except Maine.

    This page was prepared by the Center for Aquatic Resource Studies. The Center is part of the Biological Resources Division of the Geological Survey within the U. S. Department of the Interior

  2. Thanks. Good research. It's interesting, after little more than a century, carp as food source has changed to carp as sporting resource. Most folks turn up their noses at the thought of eating one these days, but they are loads of fun to catch. Good example of a well-intended, poorly planned, experiment.