My dad and I can't seem to get ahold of any cats with any consistency, We usually get out three or four nights a week for 3 for hours at a time and we fish a tournament every other weeked for 6 hours so I know we've been putting in some time. Most often we are on the Tuscarawas river at a number of spots between dover and phila, but sometimes we hit atwood or tappan lake. So far in about two months of fishing regularly we've caught three nice fish, one three pound channel, and a couple of 4-6 pounds flatheads. We fish a simple slip sinker split shot, bait holder hook, setup and use the common baits every night, we normally have crawlers, chicken livers, live creek chub, and some cut chub. Between the two of us we have four lines out at all times, why aren't we catching fish? We've fished cover, flats, where the creek dumps in to the river, deep, shallow, high water, low water.. So at this point I'm up for any and all suggestions, frankly we're tired of getting skunked, we don't care if they're big little ones are better than nothing. I call upon the vast knowledge I have read in this forum to help me get out of the slump.