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Discussion in 'Sports Talk' started by crappiebub, May 2, 2005.

  1. crappiebub

    crappiebub Justcrazy's Guide!

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    Yahoo Sports http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-browns-winslowaccident&prov=ap&type=lgns

    Winslow injured in motorcycle accident
    May 2, 2005

    WESTLAKE, Ohio (AP) -- Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. was injured in a motorcycle accident, but the team said his injuries aren't life-threatening.

    Winslow was riding in a community college parking lot Sunday when he hit a curb at about 35 mph and was thrown from the motorcycle, police Lt. Ray Arcuri said.

    He was taken by ambulance to Fairview Hospital and was scheduled to be transferred to the Cleveland Clinic on Monday where the team's medical staff would treat him, Browns spokesman Bill Bonsiewicz said.

    ``He went over the handlebars and was real evasive about what the injuries were,'' Arcuri said.

    Winslow was wearing a helmet, but it wasn't strapped on and flew off his head, Arcuri said. He and four other men were riding motorcycles in the parking lot, not far from Winslow's home.

    The first-round draft pick missed nearly all of his rookie year after breaking his leg in the secon

    d game of the season. He has had two operations on the leg.
     
  2. mikie_fin

    mikie_fin Ohio & California

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    This does not surprise you does it?? Typical Cleveland sports teams. Why would he even attempt to ride his motorcycle while recuperating from a broken leg that required two surgeries. I would guess the doctors did not recommend motorcycle riding as a form of rehab. Fine this knucklehead!!

    Mikie - Browns backer from So. California
     

  3. Tee

    Tee Team OGF

    That's a good idea! Go to the trouble of wearing the helmet but not strap it on. A CLASSIC! I'll bet he's probably done that before....



    Hope he is ok though.
     
  4. I'm sure somewhere in his contract that it says no motorcycle riding. I think that is standard in most sports contracts. Who was it a couple years ago for the SF Giants that broke his wrist riding his motorcycle and then lied about it because his contract said not to? When you've hit bottom things can only go up right? Some one please tell me they only go up. :(
     
  5. hardwaterfan

    hardwaterfan Twinsburg, OH (NE OH, northern edge of Summit Co.)

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    nice to see the curse is alive and well. :rolleyes:
     
  6. I am starting to think it is not a hoax but real...
     
  7. In the case of the Browns: they hit bottom and then started digging ;)

    Steve
     
  8. Yes It Was In His Contract.no Rideing Motorbikes.talented Yes-but Dumb..the Whammy Bamby Is Still On For Firing Paul Brown////
     
  9. the wammy... LOL
    I was hoping when Model left so did the curse but guess not...
     
  10. Darwin

    Darwin If your gonna be a bear..

    If I remember right it was Jeff Kent, the second baseman for the Giants?
    Also do you guys remember Ron Gant, he broke his leg in a motorcycle accident and was never the same after it........
     
  11. It was definitely Jeff Kent.

    What do you expect from a guy who went to Miami :p
     
  12. While we are citing players who were guilty of breaking contract rules, don't forget Cleveland owns rights to another one. How about Aaron Boone? The Indians ended up with him because he blew an ACL in a pickup basketball game. I am sure he thought that a pickup game seemed rather harmless in January during off-season. But it was written into his contract that it was not allowed and thus he was released from the team. If Winslow was just doing what they stated in the report then he too probably thought his act was harmless whether it violated a contract or not. I am not defending him blindly here because I am not a real fan of the individual off the field anyway. I am just saying that this stuff happens and if you put yourself in the player's shoes it seems a bit easier to comprehend. I mean I play pickup basketball all of the time and if I were a ball player in the off-season I would find that tempting to do.

    The bottom line is that his injuries are not life threatening and hopefully that also includes no injuries that will carry over onto the field. If that were the case the Browns could easily release their obligation to his contract. I think he is a very talented TE and hopefully he comes in healthy this fall because the Browns are in desparate need of some offense.
     
  13. Darwin

    Darwin If your gonna be a bear..

    Here is ESPN's version.......

    Sources: Player's contract forbids riding a motorcycleESPN.com news services


    CLEVELAND -- Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. sustained internal injuries and complained of chest pains after he was injured in a motorcycle accident, the team said Monday night.

    A Browns source told ESPN.com that the team was "particularly concerned" about Winslow's right knee. The Browns confirmed his injuries aren't life-threatening.

    Winslow was riding in a community college parking lot Sunday when he hit a curb at about 35 mph and was thrown from the motorcycle, Westlake police Lt. Ray Arcuri said.

    Winslow was taken by ambulance to Fairview Hospital and was transferred to the Cleveland Clinic on Monday where the team's medical staff would treat him, Browns spokesman Bill Bonsiewicz said.

    The extent of the injury to Winslow's right knee, and the possibility of structural damage that might sideline him for an extended period, likely will not be determined until swelling in the knee subsides.

    There is also swelling in Winslow's right shoulder.

    "He went over the handlebars and was real evasive about what the injuries were," Arcuri said.

    The 21-year-old Winslow had minor visible injuries. He was wearing a helmet, but it wasn't strapped on and flew off his head, Arcuri said. He landed in a landscaped area at the edge of the parking lot, falling hard enough to tear out a small tree.

    He and four other men were riding motorcycles in the parking lot, not far from Winslow's home in suburban Cleveland. There was no alcohol involved, Arcuri said.

    "The four gentlemen said he was testing the bike out learning to ride," Arcuri said.

    ESPN.com senior writer Len Pasquarelli reports the availability of Winslow for the 2005 season is not the only thing at risk. Beyond the injuries, there are possible financial ramifications as well, and Winslow may have given the team an opportunity to recover a portion of his signing bonus and option bonus, if he is found to be in breach of his contract.

    Section 3 of the NFL's standard player contract stipulates, in part, that a "player will not engage in … any activity other than football which may involve a significant risk of personal injury. … Player therefore agrees that club will have the right … to enjoin the player from engaging in any activity other than football which may involve a significant risk of injury."

    But two league sources said Monday night that Winslow's contract includes language which is even more specific and limiting, and which expressly forbids riding a motorcycle. Many teams include such specific language in the addendums to contracts, especially those involving high-round draft choices. An agent who negotiated the contracts of some high-round Cleveland draft choices in recent years said the Browns routinely include such restrictions.

    If the Winslow contract indeed includes such language, the Browns could seek to recoup a prorated share of the $6 million signing bonus Winslow received last year and perhaps the entire $4.4 million option bonus he was paid on March 1 of this year.

    Winslow purchased the 2005 Suzuki GSX-R750 last month. He could face charges of reckless operation and operating without a valid driver's license because he didn't have a learner's permit, Arcuri said.

    The first-round draft pick missed nearly all of his rookie year with the Browns after breaking his right leg against Dallas in Week 2 while attempting to recover an onside kick in the final seconds.

    Winslow had five receptions for 50 yards in his first two pro games.

    He has had two operations on the leg and said in March that he expected it to be fully healed for this season. Winslow signed a six-year, $40 million contract with the Browns, but lost a $5.3 million bonus because of the leg injury.
     
  14. Wow! That spells it out a little more than the initial report. It does not sound good for Winslow. I would say that the Browns will at least take some of the bonus money and may take this opportunity to rid themselves of him completely. If he had the language in his contract specifically that he was not to ride a motorcycle and he actually went out and purchased one then that is ridiculous. Someone with an attitude that rules don't apply to them can be bad news. It will be interesting to see how this one plays out. He may join the growing list Browns top draft picks to be gone.
     
  15. Darwin

    Darwin If your gonna be a bear..

    I agree, I guess if I were in his shoes my attitude might be "I am a grown man, they are not going to tell me what to do!" With that said though, the Browns, or any team for that matter have so much invested in a player that they have that right and he did sign and agree to it! SHould be interesting to see what happens in the near future.
     
  16. That is the main thing to consider. He failed to consider that he has not yet earned those millions that he has received nor the millions that are still in contract coming to him. Owners need to be able to write this in to their contracts or much more of this would happen.

    If he wants to ride his motorcycle he has that choice. However, it would include him paying pack that bonus and relinquishing the remainder of his contract.;) When this is all said and done we may find out that he made that decision a few days ago whether he knew it or not.:rolleyes:
     
  17. hardwaterfan

    hardwaterfan Twinsburg, OH (NE OH, northern edge of Summit Co.)

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    lol :D

    Hey its like a fresh start every year.... super bowl bound in '06 :D

    hey at least they worked on what they needed the most in the draft....the o-line...

    oh wait.... :rolleyes:

    GO BROWNS!! :)
     
  18. The worst part of it is that if he wasn't hurt no one would know he was out riding a motorcycle or that he even purchased one. Except for when he showed up for mini camp or something on it. :rolleyes: I wonder how many pick up basketball games Boone played in before he blew out his knee or how many times that Winslow has been out on the motorcycle? Something else that is bad is he is getting paid all that money. He could have signed up for the "Motorcycle Ohio" program, paid $25 and they would have taught him to ride. Instead he gets lessons from his buddies and wrecks his bike. What did he major in again in college? :rolleyes:
     
  19. crankus_maximus

    crankus_maximus Crankus Baitus Maximus

    He is what he is, a moron. Put him in the same class as mighty maurice.
     
  20. I hope he is OK for the Browns sake but if not then screw him and recoup the money...
    Lerner should then say "SHOW ME THE $$$"