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Big live bait rigging ?

Discussion in 'Catfish Discussion' started by Rooster, Aug 6, 2004.

  1. I guess that a 6” goldfish is not really considered to be a BIG bait for most of you, but it is a HUGE bait for me. Now, how do you rig large live bait? I was using a 3oz bank sinker with an 8/0 hook and just putting it through the tail. Is there a better way? Should I be using a leader to keep the sinker away from the hook/bait? Thanks!
  2. misfit

    misfit MOD SQUAD

    i hook them right behind the dorsal.6 inches is a big eneough bait.yes,bigger baits are used,but i've caught,and seen caught,big flatheads,on smaller bait.if the fish are hungry,and happen upon a 6 inch bait,they're not gonna turn it can fish it with or without a leader.when fishing without a leader,just give the bait a little "free" line,instead of pinning it to the bottom,to let it be more active.that will help in attracting fish.
    the hook size is larger than i use(7/0 offset kahle),but not too large,in my opinion.some people use smaller hooks than me,with no problem.

  3. Like Misfit said, hook them right behind the dorsal fin. I just wanted to add that if the current is running hard I hook them through the lips. It helps keep the bait on the hook. If your fishing shad; they have holes above the mouth that work well. Gills and other baitfish I hook from underneath the bottom of the lower lip, through the top lip.

    If the current is fast and your losing baits give it a try.
  4. I don't see anything wrong with what your doing. I like to hook them closer to the tail than the dorsal, so there's more hook exposed.
  5. misfit

    misfit MOD SQUAD

    thanks fool.i forgot to mention the lip hooking for current.i'm stuck in the "lake" mode lately,since i can't fish the rivers like i used to :rolleyes:
    i'll also use a sliding 3 way rig to keep bait off the bottom,in current,if there are lots of places for the bait to "hide".
  6. rockbass

    rockbass Banned

    I am new to flathead fishing, but I always hook the goldfish or gills just behind the dorsal fin and even closer to the tail. I also try to use the three way rig in current otherwise just a normal slip sinker rig. I also most times when using bigger baits(5-9 inches or so) use either a 7/0 or 8/0 Gamakatsu Circle Octopus style hook. I have had much success, well at least in my eyes, with this rigging!
  7. steelmagoo

    steelmagoo Enjigneer

    Do you guys ever cut the tail off big baits, like bluegill? I saw a guy do this for big catfish on a fishing show. Supposed to put a little blood scent in the water. Also, the bait is supposed to struggle harder, but less effectively for more "vibration".
  8. steelmagoo, I've done that in the past, and honestly, it did just the opposite. They end up just laying sideways on the bottom. I suppose it could attract a channel cat, but if your cutting enough to get blood in the water, the bait is going to die, once again defeating the purpose. If you use the right bait, there's no need for anything special. ;)
  9. I hook my shad between the head and the dorsal fin. I used to hook between the dorsal fin and the tail but I would miss some fish, the bait would come back scaled from the dorsal fin to the head. Its natural for a fish to eat another fish head first. Thats why I changed it has seemed to help my hook up on live bait fishing.
  10. Whats that exactly?
    THANKS in advance
  11. Bridle rigging is where you lay the hook point up on the fish's head and use a bait needle to tie the hook on. usually thru the nose holes and around the hook. the hook never penetrates the bait it just lays on top. I read a article in catfish In-sider a couple years back about large baits 1 lbs. plus that demonstrated this method. Its poular in saltwater like on the Outer Banks where they bridle rig for Tuna.
  12. katfish

    katfish Cats are where it's at!


    Since I am unclear about what fish you are targetting
    I will asume it is flathead. Maybe this will give you an
    idea of how we rig baits for lakes.


    My advice would be to use the smallest combination
    of bait-sinker-and hook size suitable for the fish you
    are targetting.


    I beleive that whenever possible a flathead will completely
    engulf a baitfish and not even knock off a scale ;)


    The size and style of hooks are dictated by the size of the bait.
    The hooks gap must be large enough to go through the bait and
    leave the point and barb exposed.


    If you run a hook through your baitfish and put him in the water
    and he doesn't struggle then I would suggest getting another bait
    out of the bucket.
    If none of them struggle I would advise another kind of bait.

    Magis and Don Wise don't like the koi that tie knots and weave
    monofilament mats all night but I like em. At least I know they
    are alive and moving all night--even if they are hogtieing every
    bush they can find :eek:
  13. That is an impressive picture. It makes me forget I have not seen a fish of that size for a while, I agree that fish could just about engulf anything it wanted to. I guess I was use to catching 10 lbs. fish and it could be I get a little excited and dont give them time to swallow the bait.