Ok I know practice practice practice. My main questions have to do with set up i would guess. I have been using Curados all yr i hardly ever have a backlash now and can usually cast to the spot iam aiming for. Pitching is not a problem if iam using a heavy lure or spinnerbait or jig. But starts to present problems when i have a light worm on or spinnerbait. As for flipping i havent done to much with that this year but iam looking to broaden my tech for next year and remainder of this yr. So any suggestions would be great. or anyone that would like to hook up and show me some how to's with bait casters that i can practice over the winter.