I trolled Alum for a few hours Sunday morning, as shallow as possible, and had 1 on. Got it in beside the boat and it took one last leap and spit the lure. It looked to be 35 - 38" and he was THICK. It bit on a J13 Rapala, black and silver, in about 8' of water. It sure felt great to feel that rod pulling down. I'll be back in the morning!!!