First motor is the CADILLAC of transom mount motors. Would be great for Mogadore and other electric only lakes. The Minnkota Vantage is 12 volt and 50 lb thrust. It deploys up and down using electric. Folding multi-position tiller handle and the fancy steering. This particular motor cannot be told from brand new. First 485.00 takes it. Second is a bow mount Minnkota Autopilot. It has a 40 inch shaft and is a 35 lb thrust. It is also 12 volt and does have very minor marks from being used First 260.00 takes it. I am located in Mahoning County near Berlin Lake. Its about 1/2 way between Youngstown and Akron. By the way I am going to be having a huge Garage Sale very soon. Anybody that hunts and fishes will not want to miss this one. I will post the dates when its going to be. Please contact via email or PM. I will demo motors for prospective buyer so you will be sure you are getting what your paying for.