Ok I got a pond liner from work I was going to use but cant justify building and inside pond and do not want to put one outside considering I rent. Its either a 100 or 150 gallon. I can get exact dimension and a picture this saturday or sunday. If anyone is interested I might be able to get info sooner. Im asking $100obo as a start. Not sure what I can get out of it. As for trades im looking at (I know some may seem far fetched, lol); Old honda mini bikes like z50 or trail70s (running or not) Fishing equipment or jon boats and canoes Cheap rifels (sks, rimfire) something like that Pci-e graphics card that will work on vista Video game equipment (psp, xbox, 360) Ipod or Zune laptop that will run xp or vista 32 or 33" M/T for a 16" rim Offer up anything else, I might consider needing your offer once I hear it, lol.