Last night I got home from work about 10:30 ,10:45 opened front door, sat on couch watching T.V.. I heard neighbors little dog "sugar" about 9 pounds,bark about 3-4 times then yip as if hit by a car.Then I heard the girl that owns him scream so loud that I grabbed my spot light and shoes and went out.She was in her front yard in a state of shock mumbling that something came in the yard and took the dog,not 30 feet from her.I was hearing from the neighborhood all month that a large coyote was spotted by several neighbors.I along with her brother went to look in the woods for any sign, nothing not even a sound.After about an hour her boyfriend came over and with her brother went deeper into the woods.They searched deep in and found a game trail that led into a hilly area where they say they saw tons of sign and tracks, also a possible den.After searching for a long time they called it off. About 4 am.they get a text that someone found an all white poodle type dog in the ditch along side the road,and it was taken to an emergency clinic that new the neighbors.It was sugar all bloodied around the head and ears but he will be o.k..Can't believe how bold they are.So now we are armed and are hoping they will die from lead poisoning.Also made a notice and gave a copy to everyone on street.Watch out for small dogs and cats.
I have seen several different black bears near me. I live close to A/C airport. The funny part is, the Sheriff's training center, is the bears favorite hang out. The bear that was killed in Uniontown, was after the bee houses. People really freaked out, you know like, the only good snake is a dead snake!. My uncle would thrash us pretty good for killing a snake on his farm. We killed a lot of ground hogs,and buckets full of black birds and sparrows. He had a lot fruit trees,and berry bushes. I remember putting nets over everything not fun,especially when you're only about 4'8",we used the clothes line posts.
Wild canines are really an interesting group. When the first settlers came to our shores, the red wolf (and foxes) were all we had in the southeast. The red wolf occurred in two races, one, the black wolf, ranged across south Georgia and Florida to Mississippi. The black race went extinct, but the red race hung on. Eventually, we all but wiped them out, managing to spare a few from the Texas/Louisiana border which were captured for captive breeding. In the 80s, they released a few pairs in Alligator River Refuge in NC, where they range today in those coastal swamps. The 110 wolves there have taken coyote management on themselves, after some initial hybridizing with the coyotes. The NCWRC captured coyotes and sterilized them, then they discovered that the red wolves would kill the coyotes if they attempt to enter the wolf pack's range.
You can read all of the studies that you want. I've read them too. I can tell you with 100% certainty that if you get out and trap/shoot coyotes on a constant basis off a property, year after year, you will see results. It takes dedication, but the reward is more deer and less coyotes. I've done it. Pile them up boys.
I live in central Ohio and one evening last November myself and a guy I work with were sitting right smack dab in the middle of downtown Columbus fishing the scioto river for catfish. We heard 2-3 coyotes yapping directly across the river from us. I was pretty amazed. I watched a show on animal planet a while back where they interviewed a guy that was attacked by 4. Whenever I head out alone, I throw the gp100 in my tackle bag with a few extra hand fulls of 38+p.
Granted, their population has exploded over the years but IMO(and that's worth what you paid for it) the reason for such an explosion is lack of natural predators(bobcats) and far fewer people trapping them.
You can read all of the studies that you want. I've read them too. I can tell you with 100% certainty that if you get out and trap/shoot coyotes on a constant basis off a property, year after year, you will see results. It takes dedication, but the reward is more deer and less coyotes. I've done it. Pile them up boys.
Agree with this Muddy.
Only hunting them is not the answer. But a long range, dedicated plan of trapping/hunting has surely proven to work many times over.
Back in the 70's my brother and I trapped a lot, fur prices were definitely worth the effort. Our fur dealer, told us that in southeastern Oh,they were catching quite a few of them. However, the market for them, and Opposum was in the film industry, they would dye and work them for whatever they needed, like long flowing furs and such in mideivel movies, and tv shows. But not worth the price, unless they were western coyoties, which are much larger in the Rockies. And believe me they are big! I saw one in Colorado, thought it was a wolf, guide said it was a coyote.
We had black bear here in Ohio back in the late 60's as well.
Saw a sow and two cubs grazing at night at the edge of a cut corn field planted by ODNR down just outside of McConnelsville while deer hunting with brothers and dad. Back then you were allowed to go out and spotlight for deer as long as no weapons were present in the vehicle. We reported it at the ODNR station the next morning and dad was asked to keep the sighting quite cause they didn't want the Bears killed.
Now they have migrated with sightings in many parts of the state.
Even seeing/ getting reports of some dead along the freeways.
yea ive had a lot of my friends that hunt southern ohio seeing them... and i know they wont be able to take care of the coyotes by themselves ( the bobcats) but at least there is SOME kind of natural predators around now...yea i dought the bobcats will get into the suburbs thats gonna take alot more people intervention than anything else i believe...its funny cause they seem to come and go around here where i live... see them alot for a year than nothing for 2-3 and you start seeing fox again then the coyotes return and the fox are gone...i keep my 22 with me all the time while im in the yard i have about 50 acres of woods right against my property..and theres a lot of turkey and deer around so...
It would help if you would at least give a city or town name where all this is happening.
Homesville, just north of Millersburg had a bear running around in it yesterday.. Have pictures but can't get them off of my phone.
Not sure about the bobcat being much of a help in controlling coyote numbers. We have a good bobcat population, and tons of coyotes. I doubt if a single coyote would have the boldness to tackle an adult bobcat, more than likely they would avoid each other rather than fight. I saw a trail cam video where a large bobcat feeding on a deer was surrounded by three coyotes. The cat completely ignored the coyotes, and the coyotes just walked around or lied down watching the cat eat. Eventually the cat left, and the 'yotes moved in. But at no time did the cat or the coyotes show any fear of the other.
Adults of either species would however, probably kill unguarded young of the other. In this scenario, the coyote would have a slight advantage, as usually one adult will stay with the pups while the other hunts. But bobcat moms have to hide the kittens in good cover, as she must hunt and care for her babies alone.
Pumas and wolves are the predators coyotes must avoid, and maybe bears, but one must find it incredible to see how coyotes could be preyed on by bears. They are just too fast.
Excuse me for my ignorance on this subject but it’s interesting.Where the heck did Bears and Coyotes come from? They were never here in my youth...well ticks either.
...seen 1 cross state route 14 some 6 years ago during rush hour. Came from dennys and simply crossed the highway over to old walmart. Never looked left or right...just did the frogger and made it over without getting hit! (Streetsboro)
I live in a relatively new development in Streetsboro, just off 43 as you're heading to Kent. We have a lot of 'yotes. Lots of woods to the South of us. Used to see them running through backyards, but not much anymore - I think they finally realized people aren't their friends. However, do still hear them yipping and howling after killing something. That's a fairly regular thing - at least in the spring and fall when we have the windows open.
They are everywhere, rural areas and cities because they are so wary and adaptable. I read somewhere that there are actually coyotes in Central Park, NYCity. Deer leave their days old fawns bedded/hidden in my mowed pasture during the day to keep them from predators.
Best to let Nature deal w/ over population, dog diseases will happen. Just keep your small animals and fowl confined when not under(armed?) supervision!?
The natural history of coyotes in the east is as follows. Coyotes are not native to Ohio they were originaly a western species confined to the south west, rocky mountains and great plains states. When the timber wolf and mountain lion were exterpated from the eastern u.s coyotes moved eastward. Their movemnt east was also aided by the clearing of the eastern forests. Coyotes in the great lakes states and Midwest are on avg larger than western counter parts due to more food availability. Coyotes fill a niche left behind by the exterpation of wolves and mountain lions. Coyotes in the N.E part of the U.S, maine, vermont , nh and new york are now mixed with wolf dna due to crossbreeding of the two species in Ontario . Those are the largest of all the coyotes in the U.S.
The decrease in trappers and hunters along with the increase in prey such as deer and turkeys has led to the explosion of coyotes. Trappers can't make a living nowadays because of low fur prices compared to 50 years ago. The rabbit population has also tanked from what it was 30 years ago. I think you'll see less coyotes as the bobcat population expands, but only because they compete for the same food. Deer hunting is only going to get harder in areas where there are more predators. We need less restrictive hunting and trapping laws in urban and suburban areas to control these pests. In urban areas, I'd like to see live cage traps allowed for coyotes. Probably not as effective as other types of traps, but at least someone's cat or dog won't get killed.
a few years back I was dressing a deer when the yotes started coming at me , was in w va . the old 243 was hot when I was done and the dogs were lying around the hillside. they will stalk you, and they do run in packs, smoke em boys . so if people can change the deer heards by hunting them, then yotes should be also thinned out by hunting. the population boom has been affecting all our other game, rabbits, grouse, ect, its been a silent problem for years and not many believed it, should put on yote drives like deer. I will go out of my way too smoke a yote . there not cute, and you better believe they would eat you if they could get away with it.
Bobcats will also adapt to suburban areas just like coyotes. And, just like cougars in California! In 50 years, there will also be bears in most of Ohio and some cougars in SE Ohio! The laws will protect them and there is plenty of prey for them too.
Already is bears in most of ohio and has been for longer than people think. Also have been Mt lion sightings reported in southern Ohio. Bobcats are not shocking news anymore either
I was stalked by two coyotes once while walking back to my truck from deer hunting. They stayed just out of bow range but followed my a good half mile. They never made a run at me but they never backed down either. When ever I would stop and turn towards them they would stop and kinda get off the trail. Now I always carry a pistol when I hunt.
Another time I had shot a doe with my bow. I watched her run about 50 yards and bed down on the side of a hill. She layed there and I could tell she was about to expire. I was watching her and I saw movement to my left. I saw a coyote trotting along. He headed right for my doe. It started circling her and eventualy jumped on her back by her head. The doe stood up and tried to get the coyote of her back. I climbed down from my stand and ran toward the doe yelling. The coyote jumped down and turned toward me. I had my bow pulled back trying to get a good shot. The coyote stood there for a bit and decided to take off. Luckily the doe had died while all this was going on. I didn't clean her there, was afraid the coyote would sneak back or went and got some help.
I have a game camera set up on the back of my yard facing the woods. Several weeks ago I had a 30 second video at night of two coyotes running through my yard toward the woods followed by a skunk. The skunk was chasing the coyotes! At the last minute the skunk sprayed toward the coyotes, but I don't think it was close enough to hit them. The coyotes were not running full speed, only fast enough to stay ahead of the yotes.
Once again, you guys must be mistaken! (sarcasm inserted)
Some of the yote experts on here refuse to believe yotes will ever hunt/travel in packs.
If disregarding everything I've seen with my own eyes and taking them at their beliefs, it really makes a person wonder just how momma yote teaches her pups to hunt before she kicks them out on their own.
I regularly have run ins with coyotes. They make a hellish racket in my back yard, sometimes every night. They've snuck up and sat a foot behind me while I'm at a campfire. They are devilish little bastards.
I've found fresh bear scat/tracks in the CVNP. People look at me like I'm lying when I tell them that lol. I've seen bobcats in lake and ashtabula counties. I've seen a lot of tracks between mason's landing and indian point. The one I saw in lake county (willowick) was quite large. Black bears have run right through my backyard in willoughby before. They have been spotted in wickliffe and kirtland also. These animals have plenty of green belts to travel to and fro.
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