The amount of people that use landowner tags is what needs to be tightened. My thought is if you raise corn on your land and want to share it with your family, I hope you do, I am happy for you. If you have family that shows up to hunt deer without a license, that is just wrong. Those deer are every ones deer in Ohio not the landowners. Do I own land, yea a city lot. Do you pay taxes ? Well so do we and we raise the deer, some seem to think are theirs. Game Wardens find landowners attitudes a real problem, they want cops and wardens driving around their lot to make sure no one even looks into it, while they and their family have no hunting license. Who is paying the bills.
Weekender#1
While I respect your opinion I want to ask you a question.
Do you know what family members can legally use a property owner tag and which can't?
Also, I would like to point out to you that I know more property owners that still buy there hunting license and deer permit even though they don't have to and hunt their own property versus land owners that don't buy a tag. Have owned enough property to not have to buy my license for the last 20-25 yrs. Have never stopped buying hunting /fishing license for the last 40+ years.
Far as taxes goes and 'who's paying the bills' maybe it would be a good idea for you to research what taxes are on a decent amount of land versus a city lot. I've lived in the city and paid property taxes there. I can assure you, I pay way more taxes on the property I own today then I ever did living in the city.
And we haven't even put into the equation the yearly amount of $ and time spent in maintenance of the land just for the wildlife.
Can't speak for others...but I could most likely save that $ and take me a guided deer hunting trip up to Saskatchewan, Canada every year. Again, this is way beyond what I pay in taxes. Not complaining, I enjoy doing it. Love watching the wildlife year around more than hunting it. Plus, I want to leave this place better for the wildlife than when I found it. And that takes time,$ and planning. Again, well beyond property taxes.
Lastly, I know a couple current GW 's as well as a few that are retired. Have known three of them for several years. They have never once expressed their disdain towards property owners. Actually, they all live out, own property and fight the same things all property owners fight. So they have a very good understanding what property owners go through when dealing with slob hunters that tresspass, cut fences, trash the property up etc. etc.
You own a city lot and you think you raise the deer huh? Wow... just wow...
Incase you aren't aware, the only people who can use landowner tags are the owners and their children. Grandchildren under 18 can hunt without a license, but they still have to buy tags.
I knew I could get you guys fired up, it is so predictable. But no the evil land owners are not evil they are good for us all. Most do buy licenses as they enjoy hunting on all kinds of property, seeing new lands is really part of hunting and why I enjoy the sport. Very few break any law, very close to none. But some others, have licenses hunt other lands, get a animal back to the garage and change the tag to landowner. Come on.
Second taxes. A city lot does not pay nearly the taxes that one pays for a farm or extra land outside of your home. Just like when I owned a cabin, yea I paid taxes on it but never thought it moved me up to the top of the list for preferences for the amount of game or fish I took. So you pay your taxes because you must and if you do not someone else will. You pay for the expanse of land because you can and you are fortunate, you worked very hard for it and I commend you. But if that fact above that 28% of deer taken are on landowner tags it is a very telling story in its own.
28% of the kill is not that much...I would say...that means over 7 out of 10 deer were not tagged with a landowner tag...they'll always be things that people take advantage of...all we can do is make sure me and you do it right.
I didn't figure that you were entirely serious. Seriously though, I didn't check the stats, but assuming 28% is correct, I don't think thats a lot. Especially considering the amount of farm land in Ohio.
I can tell you for a fact that they do check up on landowner tags. I've had two visits from the warden at my house over them. Both times were in March, after the seasons were over and they were going through the tags. The two tags in question brought suspicion , so they came to ask a few questions and make sure everything was good.
One tag was too clean. They said it looked like it had never been on a deer, or in the weather. They were correct. It was a separate tag that I wrote to give to the squeamish girl at the gas station who obviously hated her job. I was being nice so she didn't have to handle a bloody piece of paper and try to read it. The original tag remained on the deer, and I wrote out a duplicate on a clean piece of paper.
The second was because my wife's name was on the tag. He said someone told him that she didn't actually kill the deer, and only tagged it so I could keep hunting. I showed him pictures of her with the deer in the woods, and told him someone was lying. He believed me and went on about his day.
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