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Old 08-13-2013, 10:29 AM   #1
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I don't know about you fellas, but I'm starting to get antsy for bow season. I have a weeks worth of vacation left and wanna spend it in the woods. was curious if any of you guys have any predictions on when the rut will come in this year. I remember last year it was pushed back due to the warmer weather, but we have had a fairly cool summer. What do ya'll think?
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:06 PM   #2
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I dont think rut gets "pushed" back it just goes nocternal when it is warm out. I will be taking off the first of November. I perfer to hunt the early "trolling" time of the rut instead of the locked down with does rut.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:14 PM   #3
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I like the pre-rut too.. 2 years ago I was right on time for the rut, Nov 7th/8th HOWEVER I was 100 yds outside the thicket. Zero deer left the thicket and I didn't see squat until the last night...because I moved into the thicket & Of course right at dark because it was so warm.

Temps in 50's & low 60's - between Halloween & Nov 9th- YA BABY, Can't Wait!
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:02 PM   #4
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If you go by moon phases like charlie alsheimer, peak should be around 16th through 22nd. I don't know if I believe that though. I will be in the stand from the 6th through the 15th.
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I've killed my bucks on Nov.5th the last 3yrs in a row.Not planned,don't take time off work,that's just the way it's happened.I too like the last wk in Oct. thru first wk in Nov.GREAT time to be rattling.

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Old 08-13-2013, 07:09 PM   #7
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The rut doesn't change, it is determined by the length of daylight not temperature
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:08 PM   #8
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This year we will have guns in the woods before the rut.....so that will change things big time.
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This year we will have guns in the woods before the rut.....so that will change things big time.
x2...my public land rut plans will be changed to thicker areas and going deeper into the woods. Late muzzleloader season doesn't get too many hunters where I'm at but I feel like since it's in Oct. it will get a lot of people out.
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Old 08-17-2013, 10:58 AM   #10
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This year we will have guns in the woods before the rut.....so that will change things big time.
There's always guns in the woods before the rut. Dove season comes early in Sept and even though it may not be in the woods, there is plenty of shooting going on close by. Also squirrel season gets people moving around shooting in the woods.
I hunt in southern Clermont Co, it seems I hear shooting constantly while I'm hunting. Between the guy shooting the 50 cal on one farm and another guy shooting his AR fully automatic on another farm, some days I wonder if I'm having flashbacks.

Both KY's and Indiana's gun seasons coincide with the rut and the rut still goes on just fine. I really don't think a few ML shoots are going to have any effect on the deer rut in OH.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:42 AM   #11
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I hunt in southern Clermont Co, it seems I hear shooting constantly while I'm hunting. Between the guy shooting the 50 cal on one farm and another guy shooting his AR fully automatic on another farm, some days I wonder if I'm having flashbacks.

You sure you don't hunt in Butler Co? lol I experience the same thing from my neighboring properties. ARs lighting up old barns and chest thumping .50 rounds into a pond while I'm in the stand
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The rut doesn't change, it is determined by the length of daylight not temperature
interesting tidbit lundy, in your experience is there a certain length you've found is better than others? I am going to have to go back and rewatch my footage when the most bucks appeared and see when sun up and down were.
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You sure you don't hunt in Butler Co? lol I experience the same thing from my neighboring properties. ARs lighting up old barns and chest thumping .50 rounds into a pond while I'm in the stand
I'm close, I hunt in Clermont. I often wonder how they can afford to do it. They have to shoot 100s of rounds and it seems to be everyday.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:23 AM   #14
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The rut doesn't change, it is determined by the length of daylight not temperature
True but temps will affect "seeing" the rut. If it's too hot they will just go noctural, and then just hope and pray you can be in a stand when they decide to head for bed and get back up in the first few and last few moments of light each day.
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interesting tidbit lundy, in your experience is there a certain length you've found is better than others? I am going to have to go back and rewatch my footage when the most bucks appeared and see when sun up and down were.
Just do searches for information, there is plenty of research available.

Once the amount of daylight triggers the hormones temp doesn't play much of a role just as prom night temp has no effect on desires and activity pursuits

Mother Nature at her finest. Have you ever heard of even one year where the birth rate for deer was low the following spring because the temp was warm during the rut? No, it doesn't work that way. The rut goes on every year at the same times with little variations
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True but temps will affect "seeing" the rut. If it's too hot they will just go noctural, and then just hope and pray you can be in a stand when they decide to head for bed and get back up in the first few and last few moments of light each day.
Yes, good post.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:07 PM   #17
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Last year at least for me it seemed to hit right after the hurricane hit out here, while this was in northeast ohio, id say out of the 8 of us hunting the propety 6 Bucks hit the ground within a week, with many of them having does in tow or coming to a doe decoy
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I've searched academic journals before while looking for research proposals and couldn't find much information on the topic. Never really thought to try just a regular internet search lol
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:33 PM   #19
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Little or no deer movement for me/us on the first week of November last two years... In 2008 (my last buck I shot) we hit it right and had bucks running around the cabin hounding doe-- not seeing good amounts of deer, bucks or doe past few years...
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:35 PM   #20
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Wildlife biologists state that the length of light in the day determines the rut every year, however observations from most hunters will tell you different. My own experience is that the timing of the first frost and dropping of acorns, has just as much effect on the rut as available daylight. There have been years when the deer started chasing in the middle of October, and some when they were chasing in November. Crazy as it sounds, when the road kill deer start showing up on the freeway in the fall, it's a good indicator that the deer are in the chase mode. I have tried to match the "tables" to deer sightings in the woods and they never match up. Moon cycles are another "table" that don't pan out for me. In the fall the deer are consistently feeding for winter, and the thing that changes their patterns the most is wind direction. The deer seem to move in circles, returning to the same place to feed every couple of days. If the wind changes direction ( like coming from the east or southeast which is unusual) the deer will be seen in places they normally don't frequent. The nocturnal thing also changes their patterns. Ever since they put the youth gun season the weekend before regular gun season, the deer have been mostly nocturnal at my deer hunting property during gun season.
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