I wanted to warn against fishing trips with ppl you don't know real well. I took fellow OGF member to PIB back in June agreeing to split the fuel, hotel, food, etc. We traveled from Delaware, OH to Erie, PA and I soon found out he only had $45 for the trip. I gave him a break figuring he was broke and told him to mail me $35 and never heard from him again. Fuel $120, hotel $60, food $50, tackle $10. He gave me $45 when it should have been $120 and i only asked for $35 more. I have tried texting, calling, no response. The man caught 55 smallmouth in 1.5 days and claimed it to be the best fishing trip of his life. Now maybe he has run into some personal issues, got a new phone number, whatever, but it isn't fair that he stiffs me on the trip. I went fishing with him one other time and thought he was a nice/honorable guy. Guess my judge of character is off. Anyway, I won't be taking anyone on any special trips anytime soon.
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Last edited by SConner; 07-17-2012 at 04:42 PM.
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While I normally would agree with you, it seems dialog between the two parties is now one sided. Maybe whoever the other guy is will see this post, and not wanting to have a good name tarnished, will do the honorable thing.
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I guess you could be thankful he didn't rob you and steal your vehicle or kill you in the motel room. I'd love to hear his explanation of his behavior. Did you have to buy a PA license for him too? I'm sure his father is embarrassed for the way his kid turned out....SAD
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While I normally would agree with you, it seems dialog between the two parties is now one sided. Maybe whoever the other guy is will see this post, and not wanting to have a good name tarnished, will do the honorable thing.
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What if he wants to but can't? Now he's been called out and embarrassed on a public forum. What if he can and will not? Now he's probably just angry and will certainly not do it. What if he was saving it up to pay and was just too embarrassed to talk? Going public doesn't help him there.
The point of this post is to embarrass and to get some sort of satisfaction out of it.
If you give - give without expecting it back. That's what friends do for each other.
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What if he wants to but can't? Now he's been called out and embarrassed on a public forum. What if he can and will not? Now he's probably just angry and will certainly not do it. What if he was saving it up to pay and was just too embarrassed to talk? Going public doesn't help him there.
The point of this post is to embarrass and to get some sort of satisfaction out of it.
If you give - give without expecting it back. That's what friends do for each other.
The OP never mentioned a screen name or real name. The guy could absolutely see this, PM the man, pay up or explain his reasoning without ever being embarrassed.
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I didn't give anything. We agreed to split the expenses. He had plenty of opportunities to communicate. If he is embarrassed, he should be. If he plans on paying, he should. If he doesn't plan on paying, why? I get no satisfaction from this post, just warning the forum members to be careful.
What you are saying doesn't make sense to me, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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The OP never mentioned a screen name or real name. The guy could absolutely see this, PM the man, pay up or explain his reasoning without ever being embarrassed.
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He did mention a screenname...he edited it out. I read it prior to the edit.
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I respectfully disagree.
To his credit he didn't mention the member by name, and even went so far as to give them the benefit of the doubt that "maybe" they had an issue come up for the members lack of follow up or response.
I think the fact that the unmentioned member agreed to a trip and the costs of the trip then decided to showed up to the gun fight with his slingshot should have been the end of the trip right then and there, actually in my opinion, the unmentioned member should of manned up and thanked him for his offer and been honest and just told him he couldn't afford it.
It reminds me of an old saying "If you can't afford to replace it, you can't afford to borrow it"
There are alot of younger, not to mention "well seasoned" OGF'ers on here that hang out in the different forums of interest and I don't think reminding everyone that you can still get burned by someone in a friendly forum is a bad call, especially when he feels he got burned by a member.
That is my opinion and I do respect yours as well.
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I respectfully disagree.
To his credit he didn't mention the member by name, and even went so far as to give them the benefit of the doubt that "maybe" they had an issue come up for the members lack of follow up or response.
I think the fact that the unmentioned member agreed to a trip and the costs of the trip then decided to showed up to the gun fight with his slingshot should have been the end of the trip right then and there, actually in my opinion, the unmentioned member should of manned up and thanked him for his offer and been honest and just told him he couldn't afford it.
It reminds me of an old saying "If you can't afford to replace it, you can't afford to borrow it"
There are alot of younger, not to mention "well seasoned" OGF'ers on here that hang out in the different forums of interest and I don't think reminding everyone that you can still get burned by someone in a friendly forum is a bad call, especially when he feels he got burned by a member.
That is my opinion and I do respect yours as well.
I didn't give anything. We agreed to split the expenses. He had plenty of opportunities to communicate. If he is embarrassed, he should be. If he plans on paying, he should. If he doesn't plan on paying, why? I get no satisfaction from this post, just warning the forum members to be careful.
What you are saying doesn't make sense to me, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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If what you are saying is indeed true, he should pay what he agreed to. I agree with you on that.
I guess I am suspicous of the method and motives. My spidey senses are going off. Did you PM a moderator prior to posting this? Sometimes they can help...sometimes they can't.
All we have is one side to the story. As a moderator on another forum, I can tell you that these type of things sometimes look very different once everyone has their say.
I do not believe your intent is to warn us to not meet strangers, travel several hours in a car with them, sleep in a hotel room with them in an island, spend a couple days on a boat with them, and not to split those costs up front...I could VERY well be wrong tho. Wouldn't be the first time.
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Yes, I originally posted the name, It was the incorrect name BTW. A moderator sent a PM and I suggested the members would want the message and remove the name. They agreed and made the adjustment. I know that I would want to avoid any member who has bad history and that was my original thought process. Right, wrong, or whatever, it's done!
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ive have many, many OGF members on my boat and will take many, many more out. i really enjoy meeting our fellow fishermen. just because you had one bad experience shouldnt turn you off to fishing with others.
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He did mention a screenname...he edited it out. I read it prior to the edit.
I didn't see it before the name was edited out either, but I still stand by my last post. I'm sure the Mods don't want a "they said/they said" argument aired on the forum but if there was a member that I delt with that did not in my opinion, hold up their end of an agreement, be it a shared seat or trade or whatever, I would feel bad if I didn't let others know.
I know they have the trade ranking - I'm a zero by the way lol - I wonder if the mods could do that for share seat or trip? it wont solve evey issue but for the shared seats it may help a bit?
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