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Old 06-27-2012, 10:27 AM   #1
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Default Man cites law, cop backs down

Anyone see this yet?


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Old 06-27-2012, 11:48 AM   #2
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We just had this discussion at work last week. I was told Cleveland tickets people trying this for "inciting panic".
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:30 PM   #3
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We just had this discussion at work last week. I was told Cleveland tickets people trying this for "inciting panic".
Cites what, open carrying or rebutting the LEO for the illegal stop?
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:32 PM   #4
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As I see it, the officer was responding to a public compaint and as I was listening to the response of the individual stopped I formed the opinion he was doing this purposely to get peoples attention as well as have a confrontation with law enforcement.
Actions of this type do nothing but to bring additional attention to The Right to Bear Arms as well as the Concealed Carry laws which in turn excites those organizations and public officials that oppose those Rights and laws.
The last thing I want is anyone to know I am armed and if stopped by any law enforcement officer, for any reason, my first action is to declare and provide any ID or permit requested.
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:47 PM   #5
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As I see it, the officer was responding to a public compaint and as I was listening to the response of the individual stopped I formed the opinion he was doing this purposely to get peoples attention as well as have a confrontation with law enforcement.
Actions of this type do nothing but to bring additional attention to The Right to Bear Arms as well as the Concealed Carry laws which in turn excites those organizations and public officials that oppose those Rights and laws.
The last thing I want is anyone to know I am armed and if stopped by any law enforcement officer, for any reason, my first action is to declare and provide any ID or permit requested.
I agree, that anytime I am stopped I always promptly inform , then provide my ccw and drivers liscence ( even if I am open carrying ). It's easier to just comply and be on your way, that's how I always handle it..
But you have to admit the guy really knew the open carry laws and handled it in a mature manner



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Old 06-27-2012, 01:20 PM   #6
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As I see it, the officer was responding to a public compaint and as I was listening to the response of the individual stopped I formed the opinion he was doing this purposely to get peoples attention as well as have a confrontation with law enforcement.
100% agree... it was just too convenient that his camera was rolling so fast.
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Old 06-27-2012, 01:53 PM   #7
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Cop was very respectful of the guy, and in no way forced the individual into anything. Many times people voluntarily provide police with ID, information even when they're not required to....probably why this video is "shocking" to some.

I'm all for open carry, ccw, done safely....but these videos of people "owning" cops is getting old. On the other hand, it seems that PDs across Ohio, the country, need to have a toolbox talk about open carry.
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Concealed Carry is a bunch of bunk! Talk about moving society backwards. Guns belong no where except in the home and in the woods when hunting.
OOPS, guess that's not what this thread is about... sorry.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:44 PM   #9
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And here we go....
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:00 PM   #10
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Concealed Carry is a bunch of bunk! Talk about moving society backwards. Guns belong no where except in the home and in the woods when hunting.
OOPS, guess that's not what this thread is about... sorry.
When you can convince criminals to leave them home then maybe well agree with you....


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Old 06-27-2012, 03:10 PM   #11
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That guy is going to regret that video when he does get stopped for an actual violation!


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Old 06-27-2012, 03:11 PM   #12
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Concealed Carry is a bunch of bunk! Talk about moving society backwards. Guns belong no where except in the home and in the woods when hunting.
OOPS, guess that's not what this thread is about... sorry.
If you dont like it you can always move to Canada eh.

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Old 06-27-2012, 03:57 PM   #13
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The guy was being a prick. Why hassle a cop just doing his job and behaving in a legal and respectful manner? Thankfully for the guy he was taping the incident as things could have turned ugly if not.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:21 PM   #14
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I too think he was just out trying to get attention. Why screw with the good guys?
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That is by far the most rediculous thing I have ever heard in my entire life!!! I will stop at that for respect of the good nature of this website.
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The guy was being a prick. Why hassle a cop just doing his job and behaving in a legal and respectful manner? Thankfully for the guy he was taping the incident as things could have turned ugly if not.
First off the guy was not being a prick. He was within his right to do what he did and was never disrespectful and new the law better than the cop. Was it good judgemnet on his part, probably not but we all know he was trying to prove a point. In my opinion the cops did an ok job of hadling the situation other than the first cop didn't seem to know the laws.

As for the taping of it, if that is the only thing that kept this event from getting ugly than that is just proof we have a real attack on our gun rights. This isn't the UK yet!!!
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The guy was being a prick. Why hassle a cop just doing his job and behaving in a legal and respectful manner? Thankfully for the guy he was taping the incident as things could have turned ugly if not.
If you just look at the video as just a chance encounter the civilian sounds like a prick, but he without question asked for, and was prepared, for this encounter and for that I consider him a ballsy patriot. He was doing exactly what he said, nothing wrong, and there was no way to demonstrate that fact to the officer without sounding like an ass, and I believe the nervousness in his voice made it worse. I'm not sure that I could maintain my composure like he did, nor could I act like a perceived jerk to an officer like he did, but I certainly applaud guys like him that have the balls to remind everyone, including the PD, what our rights are. This guy was clearly quite prepared and did everything right in my opinion. He restricted the Officer to only the information that he is entitled to by law, without any probable cause. Even Cops need to know what their limits are every now and again. Even though most have no need or desire to exercise the open carry right, as allowed in our state, if no one ever does it, it will quietly go away. So will many other laws if the people do not have the courage to occasionally remind the authorities how important our rights are. Historically it has been the people that exercise, demonstrate, and push our rights to the limit that have strengthened and preserved them for the rest of us. I don't normally support people that are seemingly acting like a purposeful jackass, but I would have this guys back for his courage and knowledge regarding open carry rights.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:39 PM   #18
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Kudos to him for taking his personal rights about RIGHT UPTO their "legal " limits, but if Ohio passes a law saying it`s now perfectly legal to walk up and snatch a whisker from a lion`s nose I`m NOT so sure I`m gonna try that 1 real soon...
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:52 PM   #19
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Why hassle a cop just doing his job.....
I think that's the point, the cop wasn't really doing his job, or seem to know his job. If the State Highway Patrol got a few calls that you were speeding, when you were clearly doing the speed limit, even while being observed by a Patrolman, would you still expect to be stopped anyway?
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well i dont really fault the officer or the gun carrier. but it does look like the guy was looking for a confrontation just to get some youtube hits on how he owned a cop on law-interpretation. if he just gave his license, he probably would have been on his way a lot sooner than sitting there arguing and waiting for a superior.
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