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Old 05-31-2012, 12:56 PM   #21
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In a way you are exactly right!
Several of us from CJ have been helping people to catch fish in a different way...those that want to learn the right way..."....Teach a Man to fish...", we try to help them learn about the species and Lake, this way they have a "Vested" interest in the fishery and find themselves enjoying the learning aspect of fishing also!
I like them to take a different view of fishing...to me fishing is not just as easy as going to a body of water and throwing any lure and then hoping to catch a fish...I try to take as many variables out as possible. To be able to do this I feel you have to start from the beginning and learn about the species that you are targeting!
Learn about the fish, what it likes, patterns, feeding habits and perferred food, perfect temperatures, and habitat...then daily weather patterns, if the sun is out will they feed better at dusk or dawn and be in the shadows during the day, etc, etc, etc!
Then you need to spend time and really learn the body of water that you normally fish to help understand ALL of the stuff that is going on around and how it affects/effects the species...are the mayflies hatching, are the craws out, spawns, new fry, where are the night-time flats for feeding, various vertical cover, structure, springs, humps, ledges, etc...you don't have to do this all at once but remember daily stuff from when you caught fish and didn't...keep a diary.
Once you have an understanding of the fish, body of water, and patterns, you can "match the hatch", know what colors to use, size of lure, retrieve speed, and really have an understanding of what your doing...then if your like me and just enjoy fishing, it really doesn't matter what pole, reel, or line to use....you'll still catch fish...ALL YEAR LONG!
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:12 PM   #23
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Thanks Tok!
To me fishing is an "Art Form"...you never stop learning, but the lessons build and the more you figure out the more successful you become.
I just think that we need to get back to the basics...sometimes we make fishing alot harder than it really is. We tend to over-think everything and have moved away from our natural instincts and what we know about Mother Nature. Once we start to understand the harmony of the underwater world again....we become "True Anglers"!
That's why I like talking with others who are like-minded...the knowledge that is on this board is amazing....this is what we need to share with others who want to learn. It not so much the equipment that will make you a better fisherman, it's the knowledge of how to put that equipment to work for you, that will make you a better fisherman!
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I probably would not use braid in that body of water, unless it was topwater.

Looks like you need another combo!
Next paycheck I am getting a new baitcast rod/reel setup . I want it to be jig/worm oriented but I am not sure EXACTLY what I want yet. I have been looking at the mojo bass jig/worm rod and there are so many baitcast reels that I like but I just need to hold them and feel which one is calling my jig/worm tastes haha. the reel/rod also needs to be able to flip/pitch quite easily too. I want to spend like 100 on the rod and 80-150 on the reel.
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Okay I'll bite and chime in. In my experience line color has not affected the bite. Braid or flouro I think it's about the action of the bait. I have caught em in clear skinny water on braid which has helped give me the confidence to fish it where conditions allow. I don't use it on all my gear just because it don't react to my all my techniques the way I would like it to not because of the color factor. The only condition I don't like braid is in rocks for 2 reasons. I think it frays alot easier than mono or floro and if I get hung up in rocks I'm not able to snap my line free. If it's Jammed it's jammed . Just my 2 cents and what I'm confident in and after all bass fishing success depends ALOT on confidence.
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Next paycheck I am getting a new baitcast rod/reel setup . I want it to be jig/worm oriented but I am not sure EXACTLY what I want yet. I have been looking at the mojo bass jig/worm rod and there are so many baitcast reels that I like but I just need to hold them and feel which one is calling my jig/worm tastes haha. the reel/rod also needs to be able to flip/pitch quite easily too. I want to spend like 100 on the rod and 80-150 on the reel.

The Shimano Castaic is the reel you want. It's $170, but in my opinion it is hands down the best reel for flipping and pitching. Having the ability to engage the reel without turning the handle is what makes it awesome for flipping and pitching. If you need more line out for flipping, simply click the thumb bar, pull out the additional line and click the thumb bar back. Not only is it excellent for flipping and pitching, it's also a great all around reel.

There may be other manufacturers that make as good of a reel for less money, but unless it has the two way thumb bar there is no way it's going to make flipping and pitching so effortless.
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Okay I'll bite and chime in. In my experience line color has not affected the bite. Braid or flouro I think it's about the action of the bait. I have caught em in clear skinny water on braid which has helped give me the confidence to fish it where conditions allow. I don't use it on all my gear just because it don't react to my all my techniques the way I would like it to not because of the color factor. The only condition I don't like braid is in rocks for 2 reasons. I think it frays alot easier than mono or floro and if I get hung up in rocks I'm not able to snap my line free. If it's Jammed it's jammed . Just my 2 cents and what I'm confident in and after all bass fishing success depends ALOT on confidence.
I agree that Confidence pays a large part in fishing, but sometimes that confidence can hurt your fishing also...sometimes it make you not want to change locations, techniques, baits, lures, line, etc, even though the fish, patterns, etc, are telling you to do so!

Let me first say that I "Pleasure" fish only! I wanted to simplify my fishing, so I didn't have 50 rods and reels with all different kinds of actions, lengths, lines, etc...same with lures. I decided I could adapt and use braid for everything because it was the one line that met most of my criteria for the types of fishing that I do!
See, I'm the opposite with Braid, I think braid shines in the rocks! The slack line floats enough to keep it out of the rocks and it allows me to "feel" the rocks so I can keep my retrieve fast enough to tick right off of them. If I do make a mistake and get stuck, normally I can pull free or straighten the hook (if it is not a HD). The newer braids like Samurai or some other 8 strands do not fray as badly as the others, that's why I will and do pay a premium for my fishing line!
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The Shimano Castaic is the reel you want. It's $170, but in my opinion it is hands down the best reel for flipping and pitching. Having the ability to engage the reel without turning the handle is what makes it awesome for flipping and pitching. If you need more line out for flipping, simply click the thumb bar, pull out the additional line and click the thumb bar back. Not only is it excellent for flipping and pitching, it's also a great all around reel.

There may be other manufacturers that make as good of a reel for less money, but unless it has the two way thumb bar there is no way it's going to make flipping and pitching so effortless.
I prefer the flippin' switch on my quantum accurest.

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Next paycheck I am getting a new baitcast rod/reel setup . I want it to be jig/worm oriented but I am not sure EXACTLY what I want yet. I have been looking at the mojo bass jig/worm rod and there are so many baitcast reels that I like but I just need to hold them and feel which one is calling my jig/worm tastes haha. the reel/rod also needs to be able to flip/pitch quite easily too. I want to spend like 100 on the rod and 80-150 on the reel.
Good luck! Take it from a guy who spent too much on stuff, sold it and then spent more on more stuff - plan your arsenal carefully. Write down what you have and plan 2-3 combos ahead...that way you won't find yourself wasting money. List the bait types and techniques you want to do with the new combo and use that as criteria for selection.
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Good luck! Take it from a guy who spent too much on stuff, sold it and then spent more on more stuff - plan your arsenal carefully. Write down what you have and plan 2-3 combos ahead...that way you won't find yourself wasting money. List the bait types and techniques you want to do with the new combo and use that as criteria for selection.
And that's why you are such a valuable resource to people when it comes to Rods, Reels, and Such....Expertise comes at a cost!LOL
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Good luck! Take it from a guy who spent too much on stuff, sold it and then spent more on more stuff - plan your arsenal carefully. Write down what you have and plan 2-3 combos ahead...that way you won't find yourself wasting money. List the bait types and techniques you want to do with the new combo and use that as criteria for selection.
Already had the same viewpoint. I have a setup for finesse fishing and my braid setup is more for topwater. What I want out of this new outfit is a jig/worm/pitching,flipping combo. I want a reel that is around 6 for the gear ratio and I am really looking at the st. croix mojo bass jig/worm rod but there are so many rods to choose from.
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