I made the comment either people aren't catching fish or people aren't reporting the catches. Then I had someone remark that people probably aren't reporting their catches. I made the following reply to all of that. I have copied it below, just thought I would start a new thread in case no one reads the old thread under " Quetico Mike ". Thank you for any response to the questions below..........
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Originally Posted by BMayhall
Im Going to with with "People aren't reporting" lol
Why do you think people don't report about their fishing? I try to do reports all of the time to try and help people out with what they are hitting, when they are hitting and the types of places they are biting.
Do you think that people are just too lazy to do a report?
Do they feel that they don't catch as many or big ones to report anyhing?
Do you think some people just don't like to share information or help people?
Are they afraid it might draw more people to the GMR?
Are they afraid someone might figure out where they are fishing and hit their holes?
I'm confused on why people don't want to do a fishing report. The name of this forum is " Southwest Ohio Fishing Reports ", one would think they would find such information under this heading.
If you (anybody) don't write fishing reports, why don't you write fishing reports if you are catching fish ( or not catching fish ). There probably won't be too many people who will reply to these questions because they are probably the ones that won't do a report.
Listen, don't take it personal...it's a "sign of the times"!
On the CJ Water Temps thread we have resorted to telling people what to look for, weather conditions, patterns, etc, and trying to help them learn about their target species.
For the main group of us that fish together all the time we had to come up with code names of areas of the different parts of the lake that we fish, so we can tell each other where the fish were biting or so we could check progress of structure/cover...WE DO NOT keep fish from Cover locations which are meant to help the lake!
The reason for all of this came from when all the NEW Cover was put into the lake for THE FISH and to improve the populations of certain species!
The GPS locations were giving out to people that helped and next thing you know they were being handed out to others and also on OGF! All of the cover was poached over and over and most of the year it didn't hold anything because even the small fish were kept!
People would sit on these areas 24/7 and they never were allowed to serve the purpose of improving the fishery....THEY ARE STILL BEING FISHED TO THIS DAY... EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN TORN UP AND DESTROYED AND HAVEN"T PRODUCED IN YEARS!
All the new cover has been kept quiet!
The guys that all fish together try to give back to CJ and help it...WE PROVED THAT YOU CANNOT HELP FISHERMEN WHO DON"T CARE ABOUT A FISHERY and just want to keep fish...these are mostly the same people who litter, clean fish on the picnic tables or benches and throw the carcass back in, have no repect for fellow fishermen, keep or kill small crappies/fish, etc, etc, etc!!
A river setting would be even worse if certain things were leaked out...they could destroy it quickly...I can understand people's reluctance to say ANYTHING!!!
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Last edited by Intimidator; 05-23-2012 at 10:21 AM.
I report every time I go out. Even if I get skunked. Reporting has become another part of fishing for me.
I think a lot of people think that if they didn't catch a hawg or enough fish then it's not worth mentioning. Which is not true. Just the water conditions alone will most likely help somebody out. That's why I try to include water temp, clarity, and level in all my reports along with what type of lures I used. I figure even if we're not fishing the same bodies of water somebody could still learn something from my outing as far as what worked, what didn't, and where the fish could be found in certain conditions.
Nobody on here is ever going to know EVERYTHING about fishing. And sometimes we forget the things we already know. Every report will help all of us learn and remember useful pieces of information even if it doesn't include a picture of a monster fish.
one of the main reasons the boards go dead atleast on erie and even on some of the other lakes. TOURNAMENTS, its just that simple. when it starts getting close to any tournament you will notice the guys that are usely pretty good about posting there reports just stop. some of these tournaments pay out alot of money. if they go out and work there butts off getting them patterned they sure dont want to tell the other guys what they found.
now some of the time alot of people just dont think there catch is worth posting, i mean you have these guys that are posting and posting limit catches. why would i want to post i caught 15 fish between the 4 of us. and then there are the ones who think they might give there honey hole away. then theres just people that dont post there catch, maby they are just alittle lazy. or maby there just not that into bragging. then im sure alot of them feel they have there own reasons.
i,ve noticed some of the guys that usely post real good up on erie havent been posting lately. so im just guessing were getting close to a tournament on erie. these are just my opinions and not meant to dissagree with anyone.
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Honestly I find a lot of info on OGF and try to use it on my own. I am learning a lot quickly but don't think I can report most things as they are on the site already. Unless I am in a different body of water or had good results with a different species.
In the end, I'm new to many things and need to find my way around, so I won't report on things I'm not confident in.
That being said, and to be fair to the site and our members, I would ask how your trying to find the reports? In my experience people who ask for reports on general places and tips usually get a GREAT amount of information. Some members lay it out there for the world to see, others give you enough to figure things out if you do some work youself, but I don't recall anyone not getting something.....
that was a good answer - our abilities are way less than others and still trying to improve - i have been a member for 8 years but only posted less than 150 times but i am often referred to as a lurker - i am confused to the comment about poaching - u put the cover in place and when someone uses it they are poaching? so i guess you never fish there or close to there even though you know where they are located?
I don't post reports often because I am not confident enough in my fishing skills. I just started fishing in Columbus last summer/fall, after spending college on lake Erie. I'm enjoying learning the differences in the waterways, but still only have 1% of the knowledge that others have on here. If I do go out and catch fish, by the time I get home and clean them, my fiance is normally frustrated and wants some of my attention. So, in a nutshell, I really don't feel the need to come on and post every time I go out and catch 5 crappie.
i am confused to the comment about poaching - u put the cover in place and when someone uses it they are poaching? so i guess you never fish there or close to there even though you know where they are located?
CJ is not a typical reservoir where the ODNR left in everything like trees, structures, etc...it was pretty much bulldozed and some rip-rap around the edges were added.
After the Lake was lowered and the Marina was built, CJ lost most of it's Bass population, the perch (Walleye Food) and some other food sources were nearly wiped out, all fish populations suffered, and all the plants and vegetation that had grown over the years had died.
After "Hurricane IKE" a bunch of local fishermen headed up by LT, had seen all the wood that was available and decided to contact the ODNR and COE to see about starting a "Project" to add cover to help RESTORE THE LAKE and help the fishermen in THEIR NORMAL FISHING AREAS!
They put in this cover to HELP the lake, which when it became healthy and established again would help the fishermen....BUT, the GREEDY POACHERS, when they found out about the cover, continued to exploit it day after day...until the wood was torn apart and damaged and no longer held or could hold fish! Then they continued to hammer it and took illegal sized fish...many have been turned in but due to the lack of State money are never caught!
The "Friends Of CJ" just checks the cover to see if it is in a good area and is doing it's job, that way we know if more is needed or should be added elsewhere, we all try to C&R 100% from these areas...we try to impress on others that if they do find it, to take care, and let it serve it's function, and not treat it like a "Honey-Hole" that they think will never stop producing! The more fish that can use the cover to grow are more BIG fish out in the lake for everyone! We are trying to properly set up a 2200 acre POND for everyone!!!LOL
We are having another "PROJECT" on July 28th if anyone is interested in helping...Most of this years "trees" will be permanent, with alot of PVC and Plastic skids, barrels, etc, and some wood mixed in! You can make the stuff at home and drop it off at CJ the week before the drop...then you can put it in areas that the ODNR has agreed upon...That way, you are the only one that knows!
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Last edited by Intimidator; 05-23-2012 at 12:56 PM.
I don't post reports often because I am not confident enough in my fishing skills. I just started fishing in Columbus last summer/fall, after spending college on lake Erie. I'm enjoying learning the differences in the waterways, but still only have 1% of the knowledge that others have on here. If I do go out and catch fish, by the time I get home and clean them, my fiance is normally frustrated and wants some of my attention. So, in a nutshell, I really don't feel the need to come on and post every time I go out and catch 5 crappie.
Don't feel that way!
On the days you only caught 5 Crappie...what was the temp out? What did the water look like and what was the temp? Was the wind blowing? Were any tadpoles out? Mayflies? Crawdads? FRY? Was the Sun Out??? Was the water high??? ETC, ETC, ETC!
All of these things can be helpful TO YOU and EVERYONE ELSE...one of the keys to fishing is to be aware of what's going on and how it affects/effects the species that you are targeting...the more you see patterns, the quicker you realize situations when you fish....some days may not be good for Crappie, so fish for Bass, Walleye, Cats, etc!
Fishing is Learning and trying to understand Mother Nature and all her glory!
I still feel like a beginner sometimes but continue to try and understand what led up to my "Poor" day...alot of times when you share that, someone normally can help from an experience of their own!
I think a lot of it is that people will go out and fish and not get anything or just catch a few small ones and thet don't feel like its worth posting or that other people wouldn't really be interested to hear they went out and caught a few little smallmouth or whatever they are fishing for.
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I will post when the fishing is good or not so good. I know some people don't live real close to the lake and may not want to drive all the way out there if the fishing is bad. I live right on CC so I fish it a lot and put work in there to find them. I would like to go to places like CJ and get into some walleye but that's a pretty good drive for me if they aren't hitting yet. I understand people not wanting to give away there spots. I just like to know if they are catching any. I am confident enough that I can find the fish if they are biting
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I try to report as often as I can on here. It's just called being a fishermen. Help a fellow fisherman out. In return I've learned some useful tricks and nicks that have helped me in my fishing
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I agree. That's what being a fishermen is about. You don't have to give out you secret hole or lure. Just let people know what is going on on the lakes/rivers. I think most people do and that's why I like this app so much.
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Posting of specific information (i.e. GPS numbers) on fishing spots is frowned upon because we know what will be the end result. Rather than tear into a fellow member because they posted this information, report the post and let us deal with it.
EVERYONE should feel comfortable posting their reports on OGF. As for replies, mama's words still ring true... If you can't say anything nice, don't say it at all.
Carry on.
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I also have not been out for weeks. I would never ask for a GPS location, but I have asked for help - and I have been glad to receive it. I have offered what I had to offer too.
Sometimes, if I'm experiencing poor results it takes a few trips for me to rat myself out.
I certainly appreciate the fine reports from you all that have even more time than I do to both fish and report!
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There are MANY reasons why I dont post like I used to in years past. The reason I am going to use for this thread is this: From May to Oct, 90% of the trips are mirror images of one another. 15 or so fish with a couple 14-16" and an occasional kicker (18ish). I just got lazy with everything else in my life to take the extra time to download pics and take time to post. If I had a really good day or a BIG fish I would take time to post. I will however say that "not keeping tighter lips" in 2006-2007 caused increased pressure and negative results as some of my "holes". Fortunately for me I now mostly fish from the Kayak so the whole river is my "hole". I enjoy reading peoples posts as much as anyone else does, I just don't have as much desire to "prove anything" on my fishing trips. Lots of folks catch lots of fish, some just don't post their successes like others do.
I have 3 of the next 6 weeks off, so maybe I will post some reports. I know there will be lots of fishing and catching going on those 3 weeks
Why don't people do fishing reports?
Why don't people do fishing reports?
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