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Old 06-20-2012, 08:52 AM   #1
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I have been dealing with shoulders that are a pain for about 5 to 6 years now, at the age of 45 I feel great with the exception of my shoulders, I know its a fairly common problem as they are involved with pretty much everything we do. My problems stem from 20 years of repetitive heavy use in a factory and years of weight lifting.Iam looking for natural alternatives, ideas ect to ease the problems knowing that they will always bother me to an extend, I have not seen a doctor and had a diagnosis, could be worn out rotorcuffs, tentinitis, bursitis, arthritis, frozen shoulder, at this point Iam just looking for natural alternatives to ease the discomfort,I have been been taking glucosamine and just started a bottle of shark cartilage,looking for other options that have work for you guys out there that deal with the same problem. Cortizone is not a route I want to go either.

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Old 06-20-2012, 09:09 AM   #2
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I may have something that can help. I sent you a PM.
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:18 AM   #3
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I would think that at least a light weight regimen would be helpful in holding everything together as it should. I have have some shoulder problems over the years which are likely a result of all the years of football and baseball. When I keep the strength up in the shoulders I always feel better. As far as what workout to do it probably depends on what your capability is with them at the current time. Right now I have been doing the P90X and it has kept my shoulders in pretty good shape.

I think weightlifting is an often overlooked health tool for even up in to our senior years. It helps keep bone density as well as maintaining healthy muscle tone. Obviously as we get older we can do less but it is still beneficial.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:39 AM   #4
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:12 PM   #5
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Glucosamine/Chondroitin
I take it every morning.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:29 PM   #6
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Agree with the weight training, I was big into weight lifting in my teen years and early 20s, gave it up to raise a family,in my late 30s when the shoulders started deteriorating I got back into it and it definally has helped, my biggest problem is my mind still wants to believe it can do what the body won't.seems to be the senerio at this stage in life.

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Old 06-20-2012, 06:34 PM   #7
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I'd talk to my doctor and find out exactly what is causing the pain then work with him on a plan to alleviate the pain.
I had a shoulder surgery back in January and i'm still going through PT.long slow healing and PT process because of the complicated muscles/tendons/ligaments,etc. in the shoulder.
What really surpirsed me was the loss of strength that cam with the surgery.
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I lived with shoulder pain for 30 years. Both are tore rotator cuff.
The 1st thing I would do is use an anti inflamitory to reduce and eliminate the inflamaion. Aleve (naproxin sodium) is what my doc recommended and he said take 2 pills 2X a day for 90 days. It worked.
I also tore one muscle in my right bisep and the doc sent me to a physical therapist. That was great. I hadn't been able to lift my arms much past shoulder height for 10 years and in a week I was able to do it. Most of this was done with light but repetive excercises.
I used to shoot my bow alot and it seemed to keep my shoulders sore. Now, I only shoot it in very short practice sessions. This made a world of difference.
Now, I never have shoulder pain.

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Old 06-21-2012, 08:43 AM   #10
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I have been dealing with shoulders that are a pain for about 5 to 6 years now, at the age of 45 I feel great with the exception of my shoulders, I know its a fairly common problem as they are involved with pretty much everything we do. My problems stem from 20 years of repetitive heavy use in a factory and years of weight lifting.Iam looking for natural alternatives, ideas ect to ease the problems knowing that they will always bother me to an extend, I have not seen a doctor and had a diagnosis, could be worn out rotorcuffs, tentinitis, bursitis, arthritis, frozen shoulder, at this point Iam just looking for natural alternatives to ease the discomfort,I have been been taking glucosamine and just started a bottle of shark cartilage,looking for other options that have work for you guys out there that deal with the same problem. Cortizone is not a route I want to go either.

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Don't bother with the glucosamine and chondroiten. No medical studies have ever produced any evidence of any benefit at all. Snake oil. You'd do yourself more justice by buying Aleve instead. And physical training like the previous poster stated. My girlfriends father keeps a bad back in check by staying fit. The supporting muscles can do a good job of keeping everything separate.

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Don't bother with the glucosamine and chondroiten. No medical studies have ever produced any evidence of any benefit at all. Snake oil. You'd do yourself more justice by buying Aleve instead. And physical training like the previous poster stated. My girlfriends father keeps a bad back in check by staying fit. The supporting muscles can do a good job of keeping everything separate.
I did a search and this was the first article that came up. It seems contradictory to what you are saying.

http://nccam.nih.gov/research/results/gait/qa.htm
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i,ve had to just give up some things in my golden years arthritis and fibromialgia in my neck and shoulders. i quit shooting my bow. i use to take my cast net everywhere i went in florida. and just catch bait, because it was fun. now i try to buy live bait, and only use my net as a last resort. if i cant catch bait in 3 or 4 throws im done anyway.
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I would have to disagree massilionbuckeye, I can only speak for myself but I have been taking the glucosamine quite awhile now, I have ran out several times and if I don't keep taking it within a few weeks my shoulders really ache, get back on it and in about 2 weeks I notice a huge improvement, Iam sure there are some companys out there that have better quality than others. I don't plan on eliminating glucosamine from my daily regiment.

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I did a search and this was the first article that came up. It seems contradictory to what you are saying.

http://nccam.nih.gov/research/results/gait/qa.htm
From your article:[quote]
For a subset of participants with moderate-to-severe pain, glucosamine combined with chondroitin sulfate provided statistically significant pain relief compared with placebo

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Old 06-23-2012, 12:33 AM   #15
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"Participants taking the positive control, celecoxib, experienced statistically significant pain relief versus placebo—about 70 percent of those taking celecoxib had a 20 percent or greater reduction in pain versus about 60 percent for placebo."

Where can I get some of this "placebo"? 60 percent of those taking placebo had a 20 percent or greater reduction in pain. Wow! The power of suggestion is very powerful, and therapeutic--Tim

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Old 06-23-2012, 12:55 AM   #16
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This helped me out, Take a light weight about 12-15lbs. Hold it down and lean forward. Leave the weight just hang. It should pull down and feel like its pulling your should out of the socket but just slightly. make a small circle and let it just keep swinging, then switch directions. It always helps me. Doesn't last long but after a while its better that going to Dr and having them tell you nothing and then wanting to cut you up.
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Try yoga....it will strengthen your entire body evenly and leave you better aligned than a chiropractor...just my 2¢.....helped me a bunch

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