I was looking into getting set up to run lead core and wanted some feedback before I pulled the trigger on the gear. I do most of my fishing from the islands to the eastern edge of the sandbar. I am thinking about setting up two rods one with 6 or 7 colors the other with 3 or 4. I was thinking about getting tekota 600 LC for the reels and a couple of telora rods med action, 8'. I was going to use 18 lb suffix 832 lead core line. Are the reels large enough? Any input on the line or rods?
I would also like the option of running the lead core off in line planer boards and understand that the church boards are better suited for this application. Which church board should I get?
Any other feedback or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
While the Tekota's are very nice reels ( I have ten of the 500lc's), I dunno if you really need a line counter with lead core?? As far as amount of colors, might depend on if you run diving cranks with them or spoons/harnesses. I have a couple of Penn 320GTI's spooled with 3 colors that I like to use with cranks or even harnesses if fish aren't real deep.
as far as boards, I think either offshore or church would work if you are clipping the mono backing into them. I have clipped leadcore into my church's without a problem but I don't really run it that much. Church board- i'd use the "mr. walleye" boards.
Lead core is fun to play around with and can be very deadly for walleyes. I just need to play with it more. Downside is, lotta reeling with 6 or 7 colors.
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Standard 47s will hold a 5 color with backing no problem...
No need for line counters...every color is 30ft...
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Boatnut and Carpetbagger, Thanks for taking the time to answer this thread. I really appreciate you sharing your insight with me.
The reason I was thinking about the tekota 600lc was that if I didn't like running lead I would have a reel that I could still use for trolling. I run the 300lc and really like them. I just don't want a reel any bigger than I need.
You mention a lot of reeling perhaps I should look for one with a more aggressive gear ratio.
Is the line ok it does come in a 12 lb version, but in some of the reading I have done it seems like people were running heavier test even up to 27lbs?
Dan...The leadcore takes over your dive curve regaurdless of what you are running...Doesnt make too much of a difference if you are running a harness, spoon, or even a deep diving plug...I run the 27lb stuff...
I have always run full cores and generally stretched them out like 7 or 8 colors, but a few other captain buddies have run 5 color rigs and do really good with them and have explained a few things...I have since switched to 5 color cores...
A 5 color core with 50ft leader of mono and say another 50ft into the backing will get you down in the 20-25ft range. If you hang an additional ounce of weight off of it, it is like letting out another color of lead, so 40-45ft can be achieved with the same 5 colors and adding 2 oz of weight...
Why is it so much different than a snap weight is the weight is distributed over a much longer lead rather than having 4 or 5 oz in one spot. This creates a much smoother and even pull for cranks so even when your boat surges from waves the bait will speed up, but it takes away a lot of the jigging action you get with having a snap weight in 1 spot...
I have had days where its 3 to 1 leadcore vs snap weights...
Hope that helps...
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Boatnut and Carpetbagger, Thanks for taking the time to answer this thread. I really appreciate you sharing your insight with me.
The reason I was thinking about the tekota 600lc was that if I didn't like running lead I would have a reel that I could still use for trolling. I run the 300lc and really like them. I just don't want a reel any bigger than I need.
You mention a lot of reeling perhaps I should look for one with a more aggressive gear ratio.
Is the line ok it does come in a 12 lb version, but in some of the reading I have done it seems like people were running heavier test even up to 27lbs?
Time for work...
Thanks again
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I ended up ordering a Shimano TR and 9' Talora to run a full core and two Shimano Tekotas 500LC and Shimano TDR trolling rods to run segmented core(3-5 colors). I think the Tekotas will be large enough for 5 colors of 18lb test and backing. We'll see, thanks again for your insight.
If your worried about having to reel a bunch of line in, maybe look in to the dual drag reels. That way whenever you need to check your bait/lures, you can just kick it in high gear reel em in fast, but when you get that hog on the end, you can kick it in low gear and finesse em in nice and easy. I dunno, im still a newb. Just a thought.
Full core gets you about 40' down at 2.0mph with a spoon. Add a crank on a short-ish lead (i.e. 15') behind the core and you'll get a bit deeper.
If it were me...I'd use shorter sections of copper, which gets you twice the depth in half the length. But, copper is fickle and expensive...so leadcore might be a better option. I still see no need for a full core though...you can take 5 colors and put a 4oz snap weight on it and get the same achieved depth as a full core in half the distance.
The difference in 18# vs. 27# leadcore is in the strength of the outer sheath. They both contain the same amount of lead. Leadcore weighs approximately 1oz. per color.
Thanks for the input guys.
I did see those dual drag reels but on my boat I do the netting so cranking a lot of line in will be somebody elses problem most of the time.
BFG I hear on the copper but let me get a handle on the lead core first. I doubt I will need a full core but I wanted to play with it a little. I did buy a church tx-44 board and plan on playing with that a little as well.
Just trying to broaden my horizons, I don't want to be a one trick pony.
I have same thing..? but deeper water..run from the crib to conny...target fish at 50' to 60'
I just bought 27lb lead core...was gonna run 800 reef runners off that rod with an inline board...
So I would need about 7 colors??? and an additional 15 feet of mono??
I am using an 8'6" rod and akuma reel...it has a counter on it but it is also a spare reel i keep onboard just in case..
thanks,
Mike
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As I recall, 18# leascore has the same amount of lead in the core as 27#.
The 27# will be slightly larger in in the woven diameter which should result in less depth due to additional resistance. All I ever use on Erie is 18# with 15# Seagaur leader and 15# Big Game backing.
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Ok so I guess my question is with an inline board what would be my best option for 50 feet depth with an 800 reef runner?? I have the lead core 25#
Ihave the extra reel...but I also have the 3 oz snap weights??
I just bought some 50' ez release torpedos and I run dipseys...just looking to get it out away from boat...
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A big reason I believe Core works so well is that it gets the bait so far away from the boat. A full core with renoskys or a half core with bagleys some days outfishes the mono and snaps, seems like calmer sunnier days this happens, coincidence I think not.
Core very speed sensitive...speed up it will rise...slow down it sinks...go figure....lol
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At what speed?
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Ive never used more than 8 colors of a full core for walleye...Never used more than 3oz of lead on my 5 color core board rods...Maybe Im higher than I think, but the fish dont seem to mind...Been doing it that way for years...
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I doubt I will need a full core but I wanted to play with it a little. I did buy a church tx-44 board and plan on playing with that a little as well.
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