Thanks Mushi, that's great info if not a touch dry in spots.
I read page after page of stuff like that in my master's program at a large school in central Ohio. That's just a review; trying to read and understand the actual language in the code is tougher. But it's sweet the way this tells you exactly where to look for the specifics.
This whole debacle with the trespassing came from duck hunters using the old law to their advantage to gain access to leased (for duck hunting) river bottoms, which as you can imagine made for some unpleasant encounters. I for one don't like the whole leasing land for hunting or fishing, but can see how upset someone would be who is for it. I think they just put this law in to make it easier on the gamewardens to enforce trespassing just for those encounters. It really comes down to greedy governments in Ohio too I have heard, don't know that it's fact or not but they say Ohio is one of the few states that makes you pay taxes to the middle of the river, which makes this whole can of worms possible. As much as I hate how it effects my hunting and fishing spots to have the old law back, I for one would still like to see it reversed just so people can enjoy the rivers. I would be all for a clause that would drastically increase fines for littering along any river or stream as part of the law to reverse it. I still believe if you make the punishment severe enough it will stop most of the problems. Just my 2c on a problem that hits very close to home!
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just as most rangers leave you alone in parks at night if you are clearly fishing, then most property owners should leave you alone if you are wading and clearly fishing as long as you arent on the bank, making fires, noise, leaving trash etc...
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I'm quite sure they don't own the river. Just stay in the river and let them bicker at you. Let them call the cops and nothing should happen. Some people are very protective and might see wading fishermen as possible thieves.
It's difficult for me to read things like "I'm quite sure..." when clearly you are quite wrong and have spent no time researching or have no first hand experience of the legalities.
PLEEEEEASE stop saying you graduated from OSU as some badge of honor. You're dragging the rest of us down with you.
Most know I'm a big advocate of the Federal interpretation of navigatable water. But I also understand it differs from Ohio's interpretation.
It will be interesting to see how things shake out the next few years as I believe the topic is going to heat up for other reasons.
Silent Mike, in alot of streams the owners own the land under the water. If your wading, fishing or not, your trespassing, owners have a right to say something, I would.
There are many instances where the stream bed is owned by the adjacent property owner. They do not own the water but in many cases they do own the land underneath it.
If I lived along a stream I would be one of those "nagging" landowners also. I don't want someone on my property, whether it is 10 ft from my back door or on the creek 100 yds from my house without my prior knowledge and permission.
Deer Creek is this way. got ran out as a kid wading it. as long as its a national and/or state scenic river your good to go. on scenic rivers i believe your allowed 6ft from the waters edge before your considered trespassing
Deer Creek is this way. got ran out as a kid wading it. as long as its a national and/or state scenic river your good to go. on scenic rivers i believe your allowed 6ft from the waters edge before your considered trespassing
The law sucks, but I am with others in that if I had land on a river I would not allow the public to post up and fish when ever they felt the need to do so. If kayak fishing is shown me one thing, its that there are a lot of messy sportsmen out there. Between the blue tubs, and balls of line mixed in with all the party accessories, they can keep that on public land.
It's just a shame where we've gone to as a nation and a society over the past several decades. Cutting my fishing eye teeth on Pennsylvania trout streams would not have been possible in todays society for fear of a landowner yelling and screaming, or threatening a fisherman, or calling the law. And I suppose you can't blame them as that's a result of past criminal activity and people not respecting the property. Interesting thread but...how sad.
being a scenic river gives you no right to use it on private property, it was setup to keep the river clean and educate the landowners to keep it clean, protect the corridor,ect, nowhere does it say anything about letting fishermen trespass.
Silent Mike, in alot of streams the owners own the land under the water. If your wading, fishing or not, your trespassing, owners have a right to say something, I would.
i know that, thats what i was saying...if a person is clearly wading down the stream and fishing, not causing any problems the land owner should not say anything....i would welcome waders through the stream i owned as long as they didnt set up camp or something on the bank....if they dont come up on land and do not disturb the land with trash or anything then i would be fine with it
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. as long as its a national and/or state scenic river your good to go. on scenic rivers i believe your allowed 6ft from the waters edge before your considered trespassing
Again with the statements as if they were fact.
For the record, the quoted portion is simply not true.
I'm done. I'm convinced this topic outreaches the capabilities of most who comment on it.
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