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bkr43050
09-06-2011, 05:50 PM
I have done very little perching up on Erie and I have been doing some homework on which rigs to use. There seem to be several different rigs that guys use but not many pictures show up on here. I have read a lot of descriptions but that is not as nice as actually looking at them. So do any of you have pictures of how you rig for perch?

Shortdrift
09-06-2011, 06:49 PM
I simply use one of two rigs. First is the three hook crappie, but the one made with mono, not the one with wire as the main line. Second is a slip sinker on the main line with a swivel below and a single #4 thin wire hook. you can fish the second on or off the bottom. Sometime (not very often) I will use a rattle spoon with a #4 hook on a two inch snell. This rig might get them going when the bite is super slow.

boatnut
09-06-2011, 08:05 PM
Mine are on my boat, but I will try to get pic by next weekend. in meantime, try here for "crappie" style rigs/pics http://www.olepetestackle.com/baitrigs.htm

here's a few i found on the 'net...."crappie rig" on left and "spreader" on right.

bkr43050
09-07-2011, 08:49 AM
I have a few of the spreaders just like you have pictured above. How long of leaders do you rig to those? And are the leaders just the hook? I see some snelled leaders that have a bead on them as well but didn't know if that was necessary or helpful. And are the leaders on the crappie rig the same as those that you rig on the spreaders?

Oh, and how heavy is usually enough for the sinker?

Captain Curt
09-07-2011, 09:01 AM
I use the captain curts perch rigs on my boat! We pulled 150 perch on Saturaday, really nice ones out of Geneva. We were in 39 ft. of water, there was a strong current where we were at.

HappySnag
09-07-2011, 09:23 AM
bkr43050
4" leeder les tangle if you drop them with open spool,stifer line les tangle.
you can make same rig like boatnut has on left side picture-put slip sinker on botom section,ty line to barel swiwel and ty hok to that.

snag

BuckeyeHunter
09-07-2011, 09:33 AM
My personal experience with crappie rigs is that one hook will do fine, usually the lowest - the other one or two won't as they're at the wrong depth or at least they'll catch a much higher ratio of white perch and white bass. Spreaders are basic, effective, very easy to use and put both hooks at the same depth where the perch are. Just put the snelled hook right on the spreader.

It's not that the other tactics don't work, I just see no real reason to use anything else. Perch aren't real complex - keep it simple IMO.

As for weight, I honestly can't remember. 3/4 oz sounds familiar but I don't know that for sure.

bkr43050
09-07-2011, 10:15 AM
Just put the snelled hook right on the spreader.
I have a lot of hooks already and I was planning on tying my own leaders so that was why I was asking the length. So how long are the snelled hook leaders? 8" maybe?

Hardtop
09-07-2011, 10:26 AM
The perch are usually feeding in the mud so you want your bait/hook there too, I think the sinker drop and puff of mud brings them in sometimes. here are some tips that I think help on Erie.....
1- keep it simple, I use a 5/8-3/4oz bell sinker, and one single #4-6 very
long shanked hook tied on a loop so that it hangs almost with the sinker
on the bottom, remember, that is where the perch are looking for food.
I always cut or break the minnows if they are big enough to do that
because I think the perch are quick to grab any loose piece of meat they
find floating around in a feeding frenzy. The cut chunks also put more
odor in the water than a whole lively minnow.
2- The heavier bell sinker is important for two reasons, first the shape of
the bell sinker keeps it from spiraling on the way down and this reduces
line twist. The heavy (5/8-3/4oz) size may seem like more than you
need at times, but it gets the bait back down into the feeding zone
quicker, and when you get them going, you don't want them to loose
interest in the little fast food shop you started for them.
3- The single long shanked hook....single because when you get them going,
additional hooks and hardware just cause problems and you spend a lot
of time baiting the second hook for naught most of the time. You will
miss what might have been a occassional "double" but make up for it
by getting back down quicker and less lost time with tangles.
Looooong shanked hook because they are easier to get out than a
standard short hook, again speed is a key element when you have a
school of nice ones waiting down there.
4- Keep the hook tied so that it hangs in the mud, most active perch
are looking for wigglers and other bottom dwelling food, that's where
yoou want your bait/hook.
5- Cut bait.......if the minnows are big enough to break into chunks
I do better with these pieces than with whole minnows for two reasons
First, I think they are used to snapping up scraps of food in their
environment, a piece of meat from another fishes kill is a "free"
snack that they don't have to spend energy chasing. Also
the smaller offering makes it hard for them to sneak up and grab
an "end" of a flooping whole minnow and jerk it off your hook.
They are forced into inhaling the chunk, and you have them.
6- Line.....while it is a temptation to use light line for these little bugers
that can actually slow you down too. Try bringing a 6-8 lb sheep
head with light line....! Usually end up with break offs that slow you
down. Also, the frenzy of a good up/down bite will put alot of scuffing
on the last couple inches of line and when your hook breaks off
your hot spot may cool down while you re-rig. I use 8-10 lb mono ,
and like to tie on new set ups before each trip so that there is "new"
line at the hook.The heavier sinker help here by getting the heavier
line back down into the hot zone quickly.

I fish with guys using all kinds of fancy rigs, and usually by the end of the trip they have re rigged with my simple single hook and sinker set up, and the pretty hardware is back in the box. Hope this helps, HT

roger23
09-07-2011, 11:15 AM
this is the Roger rig named by my fishing friends that also use them,,Something I made several years ago,,works for us,,

c. j. stone
09-08-2011, 03:13 PM
this is the Roger rig named by my fishing friends that also use them,,Something I made several years ago,,works for us,,

Rog-Is that weed-eater line??:D
Just kiddin-I used 20# line to keep the snells stiff, hooks straight out. On the bottom swivel, I put a chromed, large, oval shaped "key fob" for the weight which also serves as an attractor!(Marks had them in a "free" grab bag at the checkout one day and I grabbed a handfull!):D

roger23
09-09-2011, 03:18 PM
Rog-Is that weed-eater line??:D
Just kiddin-I used 20# line to keep the snells stiff, hooks straight out. On the bottom swivel, I put a chromed, large, oval shaped "key fob" for the weight which also serves as an attractor!(Marks had them in a "free" grab bag at the checkout one day and I grabbed a handfull!):D


no it is 80 lb to the hooks and 60 lb for the main line and Pop rivets sleeves for the crimps the 80 Lb will keep the arc for several hundred fish,I like the heavy main drop because when you get those 28 and 29 inch sheepshead you can lift them in the boat